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@Hans-Rutten the short answer is if you have an MRA Gold subscription to use the "Compare" tool [image: 1784883413629-9255862b-253c-4daa-960c-969d662d1a96-image.jpeg] In the above picture the algorithm being used to calculate the route is the Here algorithm & it can be "Compare" to the OpenStreetMap or TomTom route calculators the long answer .............. is that the routing algorithms that calculate the route for Here & TomTom are different, as is the underlying map data that the algorithms use to calculate the path of the route The larger the distance between any 2 points you place, the larger the number of possible different paths the algorithms can choose from & the greater the number of differences in the underlying maps (the average speeds on the roads) that the algorithms can also choose from In the picture below the route is a simple 2 points placed 66 miles apart & each of the different algorithms, Here (black line), OpenStreetMap (blue line) & TomTom (red line) calculate routes completely differently because of the difference in the algorithms & underlying data in their maps [image: 1784883595858-331a503d-393f-47ce-8de8-882a64982c22-image.jpeg] The same effect can happen when 2 points are placed closer together, 5 miles or even 1 mile apart IF there are different possible paths for the algorithms to choose from between 2 points it is possible for the paths to have different underlying data & the algorithms can calculate different routes The way to solve this is to "constrain" the route so that there are not 2 different paths for the algorithms to choose from This is done by adding extra points, normally shaping points, to force the route onto the preferred path of your choice. In the example I am using with 66 miles between points, adding an extra point constrains both OpenStreetMap & the TomTom algorithms to choosing a route via the west of London [image: 1784885466408-948a045f-3c04-4eb0-aca5-0936829f4017-image.jpeg] At the beginning & end of the route the OpenStreetMap route calculation is still different to that of the Here & TomTom routes because there are still multiple different optional paths for the algorithms to use even at this shorter distance Additional points would need to be added to more completely constrain the algorithms onto the same roads & make all 3 algorithms use the same route The above example with 66 miles between points, in an area like the south of the UK where there is a large network of roads, is extreme (or lazy) & is bound to cause problems with different routes being calculated, it is only an example to illustrate the issue. Normally you would place points a lot closer together depending on the density of the road network & the number of possible different path options between points If you are sharing your routes with friends that use navigation systems other than MRA, it is a good idea to make sure your routes are tightly constrained i.e. you add a lot of additional points to prevent the algorithms on the other navigation systems calculating a route via a different alternative path

I have a route in my library titled Bridge motorcycles, the distance is 117 miles with an estimated time of 2 hours 30 minutes. When I open the route for navigation I am shown the exact same distance and time, after I tap navigate the time is 2 minutes longer. I expect this as I am navigating offline. If I now switch to online you will see by the time in the blue box that an additional 23 minutes have been added to account for traffic delays. [image: 1784903522563-46d15f23-76a2-48b2-b3d4-e31eb33f9800-image.jpeg] ........ [image: 1784903624716-86b26bc0-5600-4465-95cf-f826f0a66fc6-image.jpeg] ........ [image: 1784903723917-7eb92b34-0b36-4c38-b9e4-10e53425ae18-image.jpeg] ...... [image: 1784904197954-2b358011-95fd-4338-8fd0-7f175fadecc2-image.jpeg]

Yes, as a monopoly, you can get away with this! Just like you, every beta tester with an Android phone is now biting their nails, waiting for the long-awaited message!

@LennyO no Here have not screwed up the world is round & we are all ok the only issue here is that the map data that MRA is using for the Beartooth Highway is a little bit out of date the Beartooth highway normally has a closure for the winter & this closure is in the set of map data that MRA is currently using in the planner & app [image: 1784905162738-e9add942-bb0e-4c6a-948f-e7aac0161ce4-image.jpeg]

@Carl-Lee That's very good to know. Thanks for the update! I understand the "need to solve the puzzle" syndrome very well. I think it's an affliction that some of us have to live with! And I agree with you completely that showing the track and the route simultaneously on the Garmin is the absolute best way to know for certain that it's taking you the way that you wanted to go. I learned the hard way to do that (many times) before 1.2 when I had to force it to follow my desired route with a LOT of shaping points.

enjoy the country side. hope it isn't raining cats and dogs

Dit is SUPER!, ongelooflijk hoe jullie met zo'n kleine groep mensen dat voor elkaar krijgen. Voor allemaal super bedankt en in dit geval Cor-Jan

Ik ben niet meer te helpen, ik ben reddeloos verloren

@Apatrida-2-0 Cuando lo uses, no querrás cambiar. Es el mejor planificador y conjuntamente con su navegador, no tiene rival. Ya hace tiempo que lo uso y ni siquiera exporto los GPX para tenerlos por si he de usar otro navegador... porque no lo he necesitado (por ahora). Saludos, y nos vemos en la carretera (perdon @b0hd1 por el plagio )

@Edwin_M Thank you for sharing our Tool Edwin! Good to hear you like it.

@Lynchy67 It is on the list for major maintenance of the website, just like being able to export multiple routes in one go. Please be patient.

@Garry-Davis exactly, that would have been my second advice, but you are one step ahead. You can choose your beloved app, to count a route to the petrolstation

Hi ! So, the bad news is that Transfagarasan is still closed for now, but it should be opened in the next two weeks. You can check the live cam from time to time: https://www.roxy-world.ro/webcam-transfagarasan Good news is that Transalpina was opened about 5 days ago, some of my friends went there already and confirmed this. Enjoy Romania !