I am all for simplicity. Hence my remark at the end of my previous reply. Me too hate OSMand. But if I had a saying in the direction of mra I would not turn it into an app for bikers only. HERE works good on the main roads , but less good on the smaller roads is my impression. One day another app based on OSM or something else might come along. Then it is good to have multiple uses.

Sometimes, Google Maps is your best friend. I make it a habit to interrogate the areas of my route ahead of time using Google Maps with the "Traffic Layer" under views. You'll get the most up to date information on what's closed, and why. No other mapping product does it better. There really isn't a substitute for good old fashioned manual investigation. And at least in the USA, Google Maps is the tool.

In the online routeplanner "Windows Explorer" layout you can easily rename routes by clicking on the pencil button. [image: 1784009017270-165b4858-451b-466b-97ff-2c709e731b4e-image.jpeg]

@Sjoerd-Spieker My current solution is to add the routedistance to every route name. IMO this is very good practice especially if you share routes with friends or other riders who use different navigation systems When they load the route they can very easily see if their navigation system has correctly calculated the route by comparing their navigations systems calculated mileage to the mileage in the file name I still add the mileage to my route names as a check that the MRA app is actually loading & calculating the route I planned with the MRA web planner! IMO on a 6" phone screen there is not enough space for any additional columns for mileage or time & certainly not for both

It's on the wishlist

Just tested in the V5.2.1 Beta, just goes [image: 1783797423112-img_0234.jpeg]

That worked really well, thank you very much for that detailed instructions!

@Warner-1-0 said: So this is the first scenic route that Kurviger makes from A to B. I now want to make the route go via the dunes road just north of Noordwijk so I zoom in on the map to that road and tap it. Then Kurviger askes me what type of point I want to add here. By the way, you can do this just as easily in the MRA app. Open the app Open the MRA route planner Enter your start and destination Use the map zoom or the search function to select the new route and manually set a waypoint on the road you’d prefer to take. To change the type of point, tap on it and choose whether it should be a ‘Via’ or a ‘Shaping’ point. Please note that start and destination points are always ‘Via’ points (hand icon)

@Lenny-O Yes, that’s right, the microphone really is very short. As I wear glasses, I have to bend the microphone to one side every time I put the helmet on, otherwise it gets caught on my glasses. Perhaps I’ll write to Sena about this as well… thanks for this hint.

@stuart-marritt try tedt it but not working

@superg lees nog even, wat ik geschreven heb.

Ja, dit zijn ook mijn ervaringen sinds de laatste update. Inmiddels een veelvoud aan routes gereden en geen problemen gehad. Ook niet meer bij afwijkingen van de routes of stops.

it would also be nice if the spoken name didn't 'spell' out the entire number for roads that contain 3+ numbers. For example, in Texas, there are 'Farm to Market Roads' that are generally 4 numbers long - ie: FM2920. It gets announced as "FM two thousand nine hundred and twenty" - takes way long to say that than it does to read. Not sure if this is a MRA or HERE thing. EVERY other nav app says it as "FM twenty nine twenty"

Ja, dat lijkt mij een zinvolle uitbreiding voor zover dit mogelijk zou zijn.

@Brian-Martin Not sure why you’re not seeing the navigation menu (3 dots) I have just added a place name in the search bar, selected the Navigate button and the navigation menu (3 dots) was available to use. [image: 1782940294917-img_6069.png]

@Corjan-Meijerink thanks.

Today’s route was a little shorter at 136 miles but exactly the same results. Zero problems and fully charged phones at the end.

De Garmin is er wel voor gebouwd om bij hoge temperaturen te werken. Garmin hanteert een bedrijfstemperatuur van -15/+55 graden Celsius. Dit komt omdat Garmin de XT-serie heeft gebouwd om te kunnen voldoen aan de militaire MIL-STD-810-eisen voor onder andere hitte en trillingen. Een mobiel daarentegen is absoluut niet bestand tegen hoge tot extreem hoge temperaturen: 30 a 35 graden Celsius. Als je het vergelijkt met de XT-serie: Smartphone: min. 0 gr. Celsius / max. 35 gr. Celsius XT-serie: min. -15 gr. Celsius / max. 55 gr. Celsius Dus ja, met een smartphone moet je echt oppassen voor de hogere temperaturen!

Here is a comparison of Google maps with the Here map on MRA, despite the poor image quality the difference is obvious. The road colour doesn't need to change, just the background when out of town. [image: 1782733742243-pxl_20260629_112625063.jpg] [image: 1782733747459-pxl_20260629_112751034.jpg]