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    M. Schrijver
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    wrote on 28 May 2024, 12:34 last edited by
    #12

    It is not an MRA problem. It is an OS problem.
    The default TTS voice on my Pixel 6 Pro has a low volume. So MRA has a low volume. But from what i understand the default TTS on a Samsung phone is louder. So MRA is also louder.

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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      24 May 2024, 12:29

      @Thomas-Keßler What I do know is that you must not use the Siri voices. Just choose a different (enhanced)voice.
      In my car the MRA voice is as loud as the media from my car entertainment system.

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      RouteXpert
      wrote on 28 May 2024, 12:51 last edited by
      #13

      @Rob-Verhoeff
      I also have the volume being too low. Phone volume at max and also the Headset at max volume. No Siri voice. Noise remains very low.
      In the past with the old app this was fine.
      iPhone 8s

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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        M. Schrijver
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        wrote on 28 May 2024, 14:35 last edited by
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        The old app was indeed better.
        TomTom Go is better
        Waze is better.

        They all use(d) their own voice engine.
        MRA could change this for the current app but i doubt if they would. I think (but totally not sure) they won't because a separate engine like the old app had, will not work with some functions of the current app. Like reading text which you can type in the info box.
        Maybe @Corjan-Meijerink could clarify this.

        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          28 May 2024, 14:35

          The old app was indeed better.
          TomTom Go is better
          Waze is better.

          They all use(d) their own voice engine.
          MRA could change this for the current app but i doubt if they would. I think (but totally not sure) they won't because a separate engine like the old app had, will not work with some functions of the current app. Like reading text which you can type in the info box.
          Maybe @Corjan-Meijerink could clarify this.

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          RouteXpert
          wrote on 28 May 2024, 14:56 last edited by
          #15

          @M-Schrijver

          The new app is much better then the old app and all the others, only the volume on some phones is low. But I’m sure it will be fixed

          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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            Nick Carthew
            RouteXpert
            wrote on 28 May 2024, 16:50 last edited by
            #16

            To add my experience to this debate:
            I use an iPhone 11 with iOS 17.4.1
            I have downloaded the Serena (Premium) system voice from Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > Voices > English.
            And I use a Cardo Scala PackTalk Bold with the latest firmware as my headset with the correct priority setting for audio source.

            If I am riding on my own with no one connected to the intercom I hear navigation instructions loud and clear, not at top volume of the Cardo.
            As soon as I am connected to another riders intercom the navigation instruction are barely audible, I hear the first part of the first word of the instruction and then the voice fades away.

            I experience exactly the same behaviour when I am connected to my TomTom Rider 500 or Google maps on my phone.

            So for me, I don't see a problem with the phone voice or with MRA Navigation Next.
            The problem is caused by the Cardo headset.

            Always willing to help if I can.
            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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              28 May 2024, 16:50

              To add my experience to this debate:
              I use an iPhone 11 with iOS 17.4.1
              I have downloaded the Serena (Premium) system voice from Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > Voices > English.
              And I use a Cardo Scala PackTalk Bold with the latest firmware as my headset with the correct priority setting for audio source.

              If I am riding on my own with no one connected to the intercom I hear navigation instructions loud and clear, not at top volume of the Cardo.
              As soon as I am connected to another riders intercom the navigation instruction are barely audible, I hear the first part of the first word of the instruction and then the voice fades away.

              I experience exactly the same behaviour when I am connected to my TomTom Rider 500 or Google maps on my phone.

              So for me, I don't see a problem with the phone voice or with MRA Navigation Next.
              The problem is caused by the Cardo headset.

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              RouteXpert
              wrote on 28 May 2024, 17:33 last edited by
              #17

              @Nick-Carthew

              No problems with the intercom, and the Sena SRL 2 connected to my phone and the XT2 or XT.
              Only the instructions of Next are to low, and that was much better before.

              Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                28 May 2024, 17:33

                @Nick-Carthew

                No problems with the intercom, and the Sena SRL 2 connected to my phone and the XT2 or XT.
                Only the instructions of Next are to low, and that was much better before.

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                Nick Carthew
                RouteXpert
                wrote on 28 May 2024, 18:10 last edited by
                #18

                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
                Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
                My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.

                You don’t have to be Sherlock 🕵️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.

                Always willing to help if I can.
                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                  28 May 2024, 18:10

                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
                  Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
                  My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.

                  You don’t have to be Sherlock 🕵️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.

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                  Rob Verhoeff
                  Alpha tester
                  wrote on 28 May 2024, 18:13 last edited by
                  #19

                  @Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:

                  The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.

                  Does your Cardo also use a meshnetwork connection, or do you connect to another Cardo user via Bluetooth?

                  BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                  iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                  Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                  Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                    28 May 2024, 18:13

                    @Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:

                    The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.

                    Does your Cardo also use a meshnetwork connection, or do you connect to another Cardo user via Bluetooth?

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                    Nick Carthew
                    RouteXpert
                    wrote on 28 May 2024, 18:21 last edited by
                    #20

                    @Rob-Verhoeff Yes, it connects with mesh or Bluetooth and I’ve tried both. Both show the same behaviour.

                    Always willing to help if I can.
                    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                    Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                    TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                      M. Schrijver
                      Valued contributor
                      wrote on 28 May 2024, 18:36 last edited by
                      #21

                      You can adjust this to some extend in the Cardo app (background volume).

                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                        28 May 2024, 18:36

                        You can adjust this to some extend in the Cardo app (background volume).

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                        Nick Carthew
                        RouteXpert
                        wrote on 28 May 2024, 18:47 last edited by
                        #22

                        @M-Schrijver Yes, thank you I have the app.

                        Always willing to help if I can.
                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                          28 May 2024, 18:10

                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
                          Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
                          My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.

                          You don’t have to be Sherlock 🕵️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.

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                          RouteXpert
                          wrote on 28 May 2024, 19:53 last edited by
                          #23

                          @Nick-Carthew

                          I don’t think Sena is the problem, I tried another app and that works fine, volume is loud and clear also connected to the XT2 and XT.

                          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                            28 May 2024, 18:21

                            @Rob-Verhoeff Yes, it connects with mesh or Bluetooth and I’ve tried both. Both show the same behaviour.

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                            Rob Verhoeff
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on 28 May 2024, 20:11 last edited by
                            #24

                            @Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:

                            Both show the same behaviour.

                            Then the "problem-solver" has a nice challenge... 😉

                            BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                            iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                            Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                            Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                              28 May 2024, 20:11

                              @Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:

                              Both show the same behaviour.

                              Then the "problem-solver" has a nice challenge... 😉

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                              Patrick S0
                              wrote on 29 May 2024, 12:08 last edited by
                              #25

                              Regarding the volume issue, it remains quiet from the developers' side...

                              By the way, I use MRA and Android Auto in my car, I don't have a motorcycle and therefore don't have all those interfaces

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                                29 May 2024, 12:08

                                Regarding the volume issue, it remains quiet from the developers' side...

                                By the way, I use MRA and Android Auto in my car, I don't have a motorcycle and therefore don't have all those interfaces

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                                Rob Verhoeff
                                Alpha tester
                                wrote on 29 May 2024, 18:15 last edited by
                                #26

                                @Patrick-S0 said in Volume too low:

                                it remains quiet from the developers' side...

                                Holiday trip... back soon!

                                BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                                iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                                Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                                Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                                  Murat Güven
                                  wrote on 29 May 2024, 19:02 last edited by Murat Güven
                                  #27

                                  My (working) setup:

                                  I use an Android phone (Nothing phone 2a) which is quite close to bare Android, I think.

                                  With this, I can increase the volume above normal limits (for which I get a warning from the phone). With this volume level, I'm able to hear MRA and Spotify in a good level, although I'm using Earplugs.

                                  The audio system is Cardo Packtalk Edge.

                                  The iPhone / iOS does not allow this extended increase of the volume I think. Also separate adjustment of volumes per function is not possible on iOS.

                                  Regards,
                                  Murat

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                                    marc van der heijden
                                    wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 18:53 last edited by
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                                    idd het geluid is bijna niet verstaanbaar, het is ook geen probleem wat nog maar kort bestaat, vooralsnog lijkt het niet opgelost te worden.

                                    Aan de ontwikkelaars dus de vraag: Wanneer is het eens opgelost?

                                    Als ik met Google Maps navigeer heb ik voldoende geluid bij de gesproken instructies, dus het ligt niet aan de telefoon of headset, heb al vanalles geprobeerd, maar de mra navigatie blijft de instructies fluisteren

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                                      3 Jun 2024, 18:53

                                      idd het geluid is bijna niet verstaanbaar, het is ook geen probleem wat nog maar kort bestaat, vooralsnog lijkt het niet opgelost te worden.

                                      Aan de ontwikkelaars dus de vraag: Wanneer is het eens opgelost?

                                      Als ik met Google Maps navigeer heb ik voldoende geluid bij de gesproken instructies, dus het ligt niet aan de telefoon of headset, heb al vanalles geprobeerd, maar de mra navigatie blijft de instructies fluisteren

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                                      Con Hennekens
                                      Alpha tester
                                      wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 07:29 last edited by
                                      #29

                                      @marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                        4 Jun 2024, 07:29

                                        @marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.

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                                        wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 14:15 last edited by
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                                        @Con-Hennekens said in Volume too low:

                                        @marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.

                                        Bij mij dus niet, heb het deze week nog geprobeerd nadat ik een route aan het rijden was met mra in de auto en onderweg ( ja ik weet het dat kan ook met mra ) met Google Maps een restaurant zocht en met google er naar toe navigeerde, het geluid was toen duidelijk verstaanbaar en later toen ik weer met mra navigeerde was het op fluisterniveau

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                                          5 Jun 2024, 14:15

                                          @Con-Hennekens said in Volume too low:

                                          @marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.

                                          Bij mij dus niet, heb het deze week nog geprobeerd nadat ik een route aan het rijden was met mra in de auto en onderweg ( ja ik weet het dat kan ook met mra ) met Google Maps een restaurant zocht en met google er naar toe navigeerde, het geluid was toen duidelijk verstaanbaar en later toen ik weer met mra navigeerde was het op fluisterniveau

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                                          Bouke Ent
                                          wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 15:58 last edited by
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                                          afgelopen 2 weken MRA Next gebruikt op ulefone armor x10 pro en mijn backup samsung a40. ik gebruik geen headset of andere zaken, gewoon volume van de telefoon. op ulefone prima en op samsung te laag. mijn conclusie is dan het ligt aan hardware en niet aan MRA Next app.

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