Volume too low
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Hi,
I am using MRA on my motorcycle. The app is running on my iPhone and is mirrored to a Carplay device (Carpuride W702). Sound is received on a Sena 30K.
While the volume of Spotify is okay, the volume of MRA is too low. I can not hear anything though the volume of Spotify is reduced while MRA is talking. I tried to increase volume of MRA while reducing the volume of Spotify in the iPhone, but this did not help. Voice is currently not useable in this constellation.
Are there any solutions already available or is this still a bug? I saw quite some other posts here in this forum complaining the volume issue, but MRA improves nearly weekly, so I hoped they already fixed it.
Thanks and cheers,
Thomas@Thomas-Keßler What I do know is that you must not use the Siri voices. Just choose a different (enhanced)voice.
In my car the MRA voice is as loud as the media from my car entertainment system.BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
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@Thomas-Keßler What I do know is that you must not use the Siri voices. Just choose a different (enhanced)voice.
In my car the MRA voice is as loud as the media from my car entertainment system.@Rob-Verhoeff Thanks for the hint. Will try this.
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@M-Schrijver Interesting. It seems this is not available for iOS. Anyway I think, it should not be necessary to apply 3rd party tools to hear and understand the voice of MRA. It should run out of the box.
@M-Schrijver Interesting. It seems this is not available for iOS. Anyway I think, it should not be necessary to apply 3rd party tools to hear and understand the voice of MRA. It should run out of the box.
Totally agree!
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It is not an MRA problem. It is an OS problem.
The default TTS voice on my Pixel 6 Pro has a low volume. So MRA has a low volume. But from what i understand the default TTS on a Samsung phone is louder. So MRA is also louder. -
@Thomas-Keßler What I do know is that you must not use the Siri voices. Just choose a different (enhanced)voice.
In my car the MRA voice is as loud as the media from my car entertainment system.@Rob-Verhoeff
I also have the volume being too low. Phone volume at max and also the Headset at max volume. No Siri voice. Noise remains very low.
In the past with the old app this was fine.
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The old app was indeed better.
TomTom Go is better
Waze is better.They all use(d) their own voice engine.
MRA could change this for the current app but i doubt if they would. I think (but totally not sure) they won't because a separate engine like the old app had, will not work with some functions of the current app. Like reading text which you can type in the info box.
Maybe @Corjan-Meijerink could clarify this.(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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The old app was indeed better.
TomTom Go is better
Waze is better.They all use(d) their own voice engine.
MRA could change this for the current app but i doubt if they would. I think (but totally not sure) they won't because a separate engine like the old app had, will not work with some functions of the current app. Like reading text which you can type in the info box.
Maybe @Corjan-Meijerink could clarify this.@M-Schrijver
The new app is much better then the old app and all the others, only the volume on some phones is low. But I’m sure it will be fixed
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To add my experience to this debate:
I use an iPhone 11 with iOS 17.4.1
I have downloaded the Serena (Premium) system voice from Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > Voices > English.
And I use a Cardo Scala PackTalk Bold with the latest firmware as my headset with the correct priority setting for audio source.If I am riding on my own with no one connected to the intercom I hear navigation instructions loud and clear, not at top volume of the Cardo.
As soon as I am connected to another riders intercom the navigation instruction are barely audible, I hear the first part of the first word of the instruction and then the voice fades away.I experience exactly the same behaviour when I am connected to my TomTom Rider 500 or Google maps on my phone.
So for me, I don't see a problem with the phone voice or with MRA Navigation Next.
The problem is caused by the Cardo headset.Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
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To add my experience to this debate:
I use an iPhone 11 with iOS 17.4.1
I have downloaded the Serena (Premium) system voice from Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > Voices > English.
And I use a Cardo Scala PackTalk Bold with the latest firmware as my headset with the correct priority setting for audio source.If I am riding on my own with no one connected to the intercom I hear navigation instructions loud and clear, not at top volume of the Cardo.
As soon as I am connected to another riders intercom the navigation instruction are barely audible, I hear the first part of the first word of the instruction and then the voice fades away.I experience exactly the same behaviour when I am connected to my TomTom Rider 500 or Google maps on my phone.
So for me, I don't see a problem with the phone voice or with MRA Navigation Next.
The problem is caused by the Cardo headset.No problems with the intercom, and the Sena SRL 2 connected to my phone and the XT2 or XT.
Only the instructions of Next are to low, and that was much better before.Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
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No problems with the intercom, and the Sena SRL 2 connected to my phone and the XT2 or XT.
Only the instructions of Next are to low, and that was much better before.@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.You don’t have to be Sherlock
️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now) -
@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.You don’t have to be Sherlock
️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:
The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
Does your Cardo also use a meshnetwork connection, or do you connect to another Cardo user via Bluetooth?
BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey) -
@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:
The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
Does your Cardo also use a meshnetwork connection, or do you connect to another Cardo user via Bluetooth?
@Rob-Verhoeff Yes, it connects with mesh or Bluetooth and I’ve tried both. Both show the same behaviour.
Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now) -
You can adjust this to some extend in the Cardo app (background volume).
(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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You can adjust this to some extend in the Cardo app (background volume).
@M-Schrijver Yes, thank you I have the app.
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@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.You don’t have to be Sherlock
️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.I don’t think Sena is the problem, I tried another app and that works fine, volume is loud and clear also connected to the XT2 and XT.
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@Rob-Verhoeff Yes, it connects with mesh or Bluetooth and I’ve tried both. Both show the same behaviour.
@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:
Both show the same behaviour.
Then the "problem-solver" has a nice challenge...
BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey) -
@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:
Both show the same behaviour.
Then the "problem-solver" has a nice challenge...
Regarding the volume issue, it remains quiet from the developers' side...
By the way, I use MRA and Android Auto in my car, I don't have a motorcycle and therefore don't have all those interfaces
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Regarding the volume issue, it remains quiet from the developers' side...
By the way, I use MRA and Android Auto in my car, I don't have a motorcycle and therefore don't have all those interfaces
@Patrick-S0 said in Volume too low:
it remains quiet from the developers' side...
Holiday trip... back soon!
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My (working) setup:
I use an Android phone (Nothing phone 2a) which is quite close to bare Android, I think.
With this, I can increase the volume above normal limits (for which I get a warning from the phone). With this volume level, I'm able to hear MRA and Spotify in a good level, although I'm using Earplugs.
The audio system is Cardo Packtalk Edge.
The iPhone / iOS does not allow this extended increase of the volume I think. Also separate adjustment of volumes per function is not possible on iOS.
Regards,
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idd het geluid is bijna niet verstaanbaar, het is ook geen probleem wat nog maar kort bestaat, vooralsnog lijkt het niet opgelost te worden.
Aan de ontwikkelaars dus de vraag: Wanneer is het eens opgelost?
Als ik met Google Maps navigeer heb ik voldoende geluid bij de gesproken instructies, dus het ligt niet aan de telefoon of headset, heb al vanalles geprobeerd, maar de mra navigatie blijft de instructies fluisteren
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