Volume too low

[Patrick S0]

@M-Schrijver Interesting. It seems this is not available for iOS. Anyway I think, it should not be necessary to apply 3rd party tools to hear and understand the voice of MRA. It should run out of the box.

Totally agree!
It does not make sense to have to pay to solve an MRA problem.

[M. Schrijver]

It is not an MRA problem. It is an OS problem.
The default TTS voice on my Pixel 6 Pro has a low volume. So MRA has a low volume. But from what i understand the default TTS on a Samsung phone is louder. So MRA is also louder.

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Rob-Verhoeff
I also have the volume being too low. Phone volume at max and also the Headset at max volume. No Siri voice. Noise remains very low.
In the past with the old app this was fine.
iPhone 8s

[M. Schrijver]

The old app was indeed better.
TomTom Go is better
Waze is better.

They all use(d) their own voice engine.
MRA could change this for the current app but i doubt if they would. I think (but totally not sure) they won't because a separate engine like the old app had, will not work with some functions of the current app. Like reading text which you can type in the info box.
Maybe @Corjan-Meijerink could clarify this.

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@M-Schrijver

The new app is much better then the old app and all the others, only the volume on some phones is low. But I’m sure it will be fixed

[Nick Carthew]

To add my experience to this debate:
I use an iPhone 11 with iOS 17.4.1
I have downloaded the Serena (Premium) system voice from Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > Voices > English.
And I use a Cardo Scala PackTalk Bold with the latest firmware as my headset with the correct priority setting for audio source.

If I am riding on my own with no one connected to the intercom I hear navigation instructions loud and clear, not at top volume of the Cardo.
As soon as I am connected to another riders intercom the navigation instruction are barely audible, I hear the first part of the first word of the instruction and then the voice fades away.

I experience exactly the same behaviour when I am connected to my TomTom Rider 500 or Google maps on my phone.

So for me, I don't see a problem with the phone voice or with MRA Navigation Next.
The problem is caused by the Cardo headset.

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Nick-Carthew

No problems with the intercom, and the Sena SRL 2 connected to my phone and the XT2 or XT.
Only the instructions of Next are to low, and that was much better before.

[Nick Carthew]

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.

You don’t have to be Sherlock ️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.

[Rob Verhoeff]

@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:

The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.

Does your Cardo also use a meshnetwork connection, or do you connect to another Cardo user via Bluetooth?

[Nick Carthew]

@Rob-Verhoeff Yes, it connects with mesh or Bluetooth and I’ve tried both. Both show the same behaviour.

[M. Schrijver]

You can adjust this to some extend in the Cardo app (background volume).

[Nick Carthew]

@M-Schrijver Yes, thank you I have the app.

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Nick-Carthew

I don’t think Sena is the problem, I tried another app and that works fine, volume is loud and clear also connected to the XT2 and XT.

[Rob Verhoeff]

@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:

Both show the same behaviour.

Then the "problem-solver" has a nice challenge...

[Patrick S0]

Regarding the volume issue, it remains quiet from the developers' side...

By the way, I use MRA and Android Auto in my car, I don't have a motorcycle and therefore don't have all those interfaces

[Rob Verhoeff]

@Patrick-S0 said in Volume too low:

it remains quiet from the developers' side...

Holiday trip... back soon!

[Murat Güven]

My (working) setup:

I use an Android phone (Nothing phone 2a) which is quite close to bare Android, I think.

With this, I can increase the volume above normal limits (for which I get a warning from the phone). With this volume level, I'm able to hear MRA and Spotify in a good level, although I'm using Earplugs.

The audio system is Cardo Packtalk Edge.

The iPhone / iOS does not allow this extended increase of the volume I think. Also separate adjustment of volumes per function is not possible on iOS.

Regards,
Murat

[marc van der heijden]

idd het geluid is bijna niet verstaanbaar, het is ook geen probleem wat nog maar kort bestaat, vooralsnog lijkt het niet opgelost te worden.

Aan de ontwikkelaars dus de vraag: Wanneer is het eens opgelost?

Als ik met Google Maps navigeer heb ik voldoende geluid bij de gesproken instructies, dus het ligt niet aan de telefoon of headset, heb al vanalles geprobeerd, maar de mra navigatie blijft de instructies fluisteren

[Con Hennekens]

@marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.

[marc van der heijden]

@Con-Hennekens said in Volume too low:

@marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.

Bij mij dus niet, heb het deze week nog geprobeerd nadat ik een route aan het rijden was met mra in de auto en onderweg ( ja ik weet het dat kan ook met mra ) met Google Maps een restaurant zocht en met google er naar toe navigeerde, het geluid was toen duidelijk verstaanbaar en later toen ik weer met mra navigeerde was het op fluisterniveau