Distance v time calculation??
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wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 17:03 last edited by
Hi all, first post on the forum, hello everyone! I'm interested in users experience of how accurate the "time" estimation is on MyRoute-app.
For example I created a route that is 178 miles, MRA says it'll take 4hr 35minutes, when I import and view the track in my Tom Tom Rider 500 it's saying 178 miles but 6hr 54 minutes, nearly 2 and a half hours longer.
I'm doing the route next week and will time it carefully but the thing is I have a long tour coming up and I've set up some days with 300 miles riding and MRA says around 6 to 6 and a half hours to complete each day, if its out by 2.5 hours over a 178 mile route it'll be out my much more over 300 miles!
Anyone had any experience with this issue? Does anyone know how MRA calculates it's time estimation?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all, first post on the forum, hello everyone! I'm interested in users experience of how accurate the "time" estimation is on MyRoute-app.
For example I created a route that is 178 miles, MRA says it'll take 4hr 35minutes, when I import and view the track in my Tom Tom Rider 500 it's saying 178 miles but 6hr 54 minutes, nearly 2 and a half hours longer.
I'm doing the route next week and will time it carefully but the thing is I have a long tour coming up and I've set up some days with 300 miles riding and MRA says around 6 to 6 and a half hours to complete each day, if its out by 2.5 hours over a 178 mile route it'll be out my much more over 300 miles!
Anyone had any experience with this issue? Does anyone know how MRA calculates it's time estimation?
Thanks in advance!
@Stewart-Hartland-0 Welcome to the forum.
I always found that my TT 500 grossly overestimated the times. MRA Navigation Next is certainly more accurate. -
wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 18:01 last edited by
totally agree with Nick. I find MRA much more accurate than Tom Tom.
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Hi all, first post on the forum, hello everyone! I'm interested in users experience of how accurate the "time" estimation is on MyRoute-app.
For example I created a route that is 178 miles, MRA says it'll take 4hr 35minutes, when I import and view the track in my Tom Tom Rider 500 it's saying 178 miles but 6hr 54 minutes, nearly 2 and a half hours longer.
I'm doing the route next week and will time it carefully but the thing is I have a long tour coming up and I've set up some days with 300 miles riding and MRA says around 6 to 6 and a half hours to complete each day, if its out by 2.5 hours over a 178 mile route it'll be out my much more over 300 miles!
Anyone had any experience with this issue? Does anyone know how MRA calculates it's time estimation?
Thanks in advance!
wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 20:08 last edited by@Stewart-Hartland-0 all my navigation devices or route planning tools calculates different times for planned routes; still the distance is similar. It depends on the profile (vehicle) in which you are planning the route.
Just in BaseCamp, and I believe in OsmAnd, you can config the average speed at street types in profile. But it needs your own experience, which speed you can acheive - and on actual traffic there.I usually calculate daily trips just on distance - with some buffer...
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The ETA of all navigation devices is dynamic and will change the closer you get to your destination.
I always view the ETA as a challenge
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@Stewart-Hartland-0 Welcome to the forum.
I always found that my TT 500 grossly overestimated the times. MRA Navigation Next is certainly more accurate.wrote on 2 Mar 2025, 15:42 last edited by@Nick-Carthew Thank you, that puts my mind at rest.
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wrote on 2 Mar 2025, 21:59 last edited by
Which map did you use to create your routes? OpenStreetMap, Here or Tomtom? They all have different routing algorithms so if you didn't create it using Tomtom, the route could change when you transfer it to your Rider 500, especially if you don't have many waypoints. If you have a Gold subscription for the Route Planner you can use the compare Route function to check this.
Black line --= Here Map, Blue = OSM and Red = Tomtom
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Which map did you use to create your routes? OpenStreetMap, Here or Tomtom? They all have different routing algorithms so if you didn't create it using Tomtom, the route could change when you transfer it to your Rider 500, especially if you don't have many waypoints. If you have a Gold subscription for the Route Planner you can use the compare Route function to check this.
Black line --= Here Map, Blue = OSM and Red = Tomtom
@Captain-Haddock that del3nds on your devance. MRA next and Garmin use the Here map. TomTom uses duh, TomTom and otters like DMD2 use OSM
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@Captain-Haddock that del3nds on your devance. MRA next and Garmin use the Here map. TomTom uses duh, TomTom and otters like DMD2 use OSM
wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 09:01 last edited by@Marinus-van-Deudekom
Exactly, so if you do not have gold, you cannot create a route using the tomtom map and the OSM routing algorithm will be used to create the route. When the original poster downloads that route to his tomtom Rider, it will use the tomtom algorithm to determine the actual driven route which may not be the route he is expecting to drive because as I said above, Here, OSM and TT use different algorithms. Hence the need to use the Compare Route function to add more waypoints to align the routes. - -
@Marinus-van-Deudekom
Exactly, so if you do not have gold, you cannot create a route using the tomtom map and the OSM routing algorithm will be used to create the route. When the original poster downloads that route to his tomtom Rider, it will use the tomtom algorithm to determine the actual driven route which may not be the route he is expecting to drive because as I said above, Here, OSM and TT use different algorithms. Hence the need to use the Compare Route function to add more waypoints to align the routes. -@Captain-Haddock exactly. If a route is made with the free version of the planner it will be using OSM en therefore when exported to Garmin of TomTom devices the route will be different then the one you've made in OSM.
Solution: buy the Gold version of the planner and life wil be so much easier
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@Marinus-van-Deudekom
Exactly, so if you do not have gold, you cannot create a route using the tomtom map and the OSM routing algorithm will be used to create the route. When the original poster downloads that route to his tomtom Rider, it will use the tomtom algorithm to determine the actual driven route which may not be the route he is expecting to drive because as I said above, Here, OSM and TT use different algorithms. Hence the need to use the Compare Route function to add more waypoints to align the routes. -@Captain-Haddock Compare with is a Gold only tool.
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Which map did you use to create your routes? OpenStreetMap, Here or Tomtom? They all have different routing algorithms so if you didn't create it using Tomtom, the route could change when you transfer it to your Rider 500, especially if you don't have many waypoints. If you have a Gold subscription for the Route Planner you can use the compare Route function to check this.
Black line --= Here Map, Blue = OSM and Red = Tomtom
wrote on 3 Mar 2025, 16:25 last edited by@Captain-Haddock said in Distance v time calculation??:
If you have a Gold subscription for the Route Planner you can use the compare Route function to check this.
@Marinus-van-Deudekom @Nick-Carthew
You are just repeating what I said in my original reply above. I have had a lifetime Gold subscription for 10 years now.
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@Captain-Haddock said in Distance v time calculation??:
If you have a Gold subscription for the Route Planner you can use the compare Route function to check this.
@Marinus-van-Deudekom @Nick-Carthew
You are just repeating what I said in my original reply above. I have had a lifetime Gold subscription for 10 years now.
@Captain-Haddock In your first response to the original poster, you suggest using the Compare tool, not sure why you would suggest this rather than just confirming that they are planning on the TomTom planning map. If the TT map is used, whatever route is drawn and calculated in the route planner will be navigated by the TomTom device, no need to Compare with HERE or OSM.
And then in your reply to @Marinus-van-Deudekom you talk about if the original poster does not have a Gold subscription they should use the Compare tool, hence my reply to you!