What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?
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Not very trivial?
The question in the first post is very trivial for AA and ACP.
MRA Next asks too much during the day when riding a route. Answering these questions is not possible in AA and ACP. MRA Next should asked nothing. It only must do the thing it is build for. Guides you when riding a preplanned route.@M-Schrijver resuming navigation is possible from Android Auto, resulting in the route resuming exactly from where you stopped it.
Waypoints can be skipped directly from Android Auto one by one.
Skipping a lot of waypoints in one go is only possible directly from your phone. In the future that will be possible from Android Auto too
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I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.
When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.
I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.
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I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.
When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.
I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.
Alpha testerwrote on 10 Jun 2024, 07:56 last edited by Con Hennekens 6 Nov 2024, 07:16@M-Schrijver, No single device does mind reading like you seem to want. I Personally would hate it if my Navigation chose the WP to start start a route, only based on it accidentally being closest. Don't blame the app for your problem of having a crippled AA/CP without touchscreen. If you want ALL functions of the app, just use a smartphone.
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Valued contributorwrote on 10 Jun 2024, 15:59 last edited by M. Schrijver 6 Oct 2024, 16:06
You call it crippled. I call it the future.
I don't want more functionality. I want more intelligence, more logic.Every time i speak persons about motorcycle navigatie. It is always the same. Too complicated, Too much options to choose from.
Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.This is also my goal.
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You call it crippled. I call it the future.
I don't want more functionality. I want more intelligence, more logic.Every time i speak persons about motorcycle navigatie. It is always the same. Too complicated, Too much options to choose from.
Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.This is also my goal.
Alpha testerwrote on 11 Jun 2024, 07:09 last edited by Con Hennekens 6 Nov 2024, 07:13@M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:
Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.Surprisingly that is usually what happens when I use MyRoute-app Navigation with a well designed route.
On a more philosophical level: you may want to add AI to make decisions for you, but AI is most likely more stubborn than you (and me, although nearly impossible
). So what we will end up doing is asking for more tools to bypass AI... -
@GT-JWR, you are welcome to substantiate your downvote on my previous message
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@M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:
Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.Surprisingly that is usually what happens when I use MyRoute-app Navigation with a well designed route.
On a more philosophical level: you may want to add AI to make decisions for you, but AI is most likely more stubborn than you (and me, although nearly impossible
). So what we will end up doing is asking for more tools to bypass AI...@Con-Hennekens
I don't know a proper English word for the Dutch word "Digibeet".What i'm looking for is very stable and very reliable navigation software.
A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.MRA Next is not on this level. Something like "Autoskip" does still not work as it should be. In my opinion a function necessary for use without hassle.
When starting (not resuming) the route somewhere halfway by just pressing "Start" is also without any hassle.
Even better. Select your route. And start driving. The software will starting navigating by itself. That is without any hassle.A well designed route is very important. I understand this very well. When a route is bad. Even the best software will make a mess of it.
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@Con-Hennekens
I don't know a proper English word for the Dutch word "Digibeet".What i'm looking for is very stable and very reliable navigation software.
A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.MRA Next is not on this level. Something like "Autoskip" does still not work as it should be. In my opinion a function necessary for use without hassle.
When starting (not resuming) the route somewhere halfway by just pressing "Start" is also without any hassle.
Even better. Select your route. And start driving. The software will starting navigating by itself. That is without any hassle.A well designed route is very important. I understand this very well. When a route is bad. Even the best software will make a mess of it.
Alpha testerwrote on 12 Jun 2024, 07:40 last edited by Con Hennekens 6 Dec 2024, 11:39@M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:
A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.
This is exactly how AI will conquer us, naive people first. I am all for people thinking for themselves. There is no one-off translation for "digibeet". Usually the term digital (or computer) illiterate is used.
I guess we completely disagree on this topic. I don't think MyRoute-app Navigation will ever reach the level you are looking for, and that is not a lack of dev skills. If I wanted my navigation to always be right, I could as well be guided by my wife.
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@M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:
A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.
This is exactly how AI will conquer us, naive people first. I am all for people thinking for themselves. There is no one-off translation for "digibeet". Usually the term digital (or computer) illiterate is used.
I guess we completely disagree on this topic. I don't think MyRoute-app Navigation will ever reach the level you are looking for, and that is not a lack of dev skills. If I wanted my navigation to always be right, I could as well be guided by my wife.
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@Leike-Lodiers, humor is what makes life baerable
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@Leike-Lodiers, humor is what makes life baerable
wrote on 12 Jun 2024, 11:41 last edited by@Con-Hennekens yep fore shore....
