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What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?

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  • Thomas Scharrerundefined Thomas Scharrer

    Hi,

    This is just a technical question.
    What happens or how will MRA react in case you would start a planned route maybe from the middle?
    I am asking this because there can be several reasons for such a case for example an app crash once you have started your route or if you have planned a several day route and you start the next day from the middle etc.

    In such a case will MRA recognise this and skipp all the previous waypoints from the earlier part of the route or will it try to navigate you back to the start?

    I had such a situation once before the last update and then it was quite a disaster I would say because MRA tried to navigate me to the beginning all the time.

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    @Thomas-Scharrer That depends on what you are doing at that time. If you realy start the route in the middle it will take you back to the start. Solution push on the next shapingpoint near to you and hold it. The app will then take you there skipping the previous ones.
    I you stop half way ( or any other point) and shut down your phone on the restart it will guide you to the next shaping point.
    Last saterday I did just that en it never failed.

    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
    Honda Silverwing GL 650
    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
    Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

      @Thomas-Scharrer That depends on what you are doing at that time. If you realy start the route in the middle it will take you back to the start. Solution push on the next shapingpoint near to you and hold it. The app will then take you there skipping the previous ones.
      I you stop half way ( or any other point) and shut down your phone on the restart it will guide you to the next shaping point.
      Last saterday I did just that en it never failed.

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      @Marinus-van-Deudekom @GT-JWR

      thanks a lot for the information, good to know

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      • GT JWRundefined GT JWR

        @Thomas-Scharrer that has been my experience as well. You will have to manually delete the waypoints prior. It can be done one by one, or if you know the next waypoint, long press it, say yes, and it will start where you are.

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        wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
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        @GT-JWR said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

        You will have to manually delete the waypoints prior.

        I am happy to say this is of course entirely not true.
        You can start your route from any waypoint you like simply by tapping and holding it for a second.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @GT-JWR said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

          You will have to manually delete the waypoints prior.

          I am happy to say this is of course entirely not true.
          You can start your route from any waypoint you like simply by tapping and holding it for a second.

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          @Con-Hennekens
          Thanks, that sounds even better

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          • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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            All the tools are already available in MRA but how they works is a bit odd. That's why my prefered choice isn't possible.

            Screenshot_20240528-210427.png
            This option could have a better use it should be used now.

            If enabled like in the screenshot. The route should start at current position and navigate you to the nearest upcoming waypoint. And if possible just follow the original route.

            I think this what most people want and what @Thomas-Scharrer is looking for.

            If disabled. You must go the startpoint of the route.

            And offcourse. What already mentioned pressing a waypoint of your choice.
            I think this one is too complex for a quick restart. Because you need to scroll along the route to search for the waypoint of choice.

            (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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            • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

              All the tools are already available in MRA but how they works is a bit odd. That's why my prefered choice isn't possible.

              Screenshot_20240528-210427.png
              This option could have a better use it should be used now.

              If enabled like in the screenshot. The route should start at current position and navigate you to the nearest upcoming waypoint. And if possible just follow the original route.

              I think this what most people want and what @Thomas-Scharrer is looking for.

              If disabled. You must go the startpoint of the route.

              And offcourse. What already mentioned pressing a waypoint of your choice.
              I think this one is too complex for a quick restart. Because you need to scroll along the route to search for the waypoint of choice.

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              @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

              What already mentioned pressing a waypoint of your choice.
              I think this one is too complex for a quick restart. Because you need to scroll along the route to search for the waypoint of choice.

              If you are halfway your route, the app already shows your position. You just have to zoom out a bit to see the closest waypoint. Let's not make a mountain out of a molehill.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                I don't. I could be easier. It must be easier.
                Less user input is always better. Software should be more "intelligent". I told it more than once before. Other software prove this is possible.

                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                  All the tools are already available in MRA but how they works is a bit odd. That's why my prefered choice isn't possible.

                  Screenshot_20240528-210427.png
                  This option could have a better use it should be used now.

                  If enabled like in the screenshot. The route should start at current position and navigate you to the nearest upcoming waypoint. And if possible just follow the original route.

                  I think this what most people want and what @Thomas-Scharrer is looking for.

                  If disabled. You must go the startpoint of the route.

                  And offcourse. What already mentioned pressing a waypoint of your choice.
                  I think this one is too complex for a quick restart. Because you need to scroll along the route to search for the waypoint of choice.

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                  @M-Schrijver
                  What is shown in your screenshot is very interesting but unfortunately I cannot find this function.

                  I agree that the whole system with skipping waypoints manually by pressing them etc is no problem in a car but that is exactly my problem on motor bike because I cannot operate the phone all the time and that makes this somewhat more difficult but not impossible of course because you can always stop to do it quickly.

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                    Exact. You prove my point.

                    You mus recognize the "start" button. Because it is there everytime.
                    Slide the black menu upwards and you will see more options.

                    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                      Exact. You prove my point.

                      You mus recognize the "start" button. Because it is there everytime.
                      Slide the black menu upwards and you will see more options.

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                      @M-Schrijver
                      Thanks a lot I got it now 🙂

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                      • Thomas Scharrerundefined Thomas Scharrer

                        @M-Schrijver
                        Thanks a lot I got it now 🙂

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                        @M-Schrijver
                        Have tried this now and I can see the the functions or navigation options in the menu below the start button are not saved permanently so you need enable/ disable them every time..... thats also good to know, not just to to press start but first choose the options you want each time

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                        • Thomas Scharrerundefined Thomas Scharrer

                          @M-Schrijver
                          Have tried this now and I can see the the functions or navigation options in the menu below the start button are not saved permanently so you need enable/ disable them every time..... thats also good to know, not just to to press start but first choose the options you want each time

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                          @Thomas-Scharrer the options are the ones you activated saving the route. Calculating from this point is default on. So I think there’s no need to make this menu bigger by default

                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                          • GT JWRundefined GT JWR

                            @Thomas-Scharrer that has been my experience as well. You will have to manually delete the waypoints prior. It can be done one by one, or if you know the next waypoint, long press it, say yes, and it will start where you are.

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                            @GT-JWR Hello, does anyone know if this functionality exists in the CarPlay version of the Navigation app? Is it possible to find the waypoint you wish to begin with and long press it (or equivalent) to begin a route in the middle? Thanks.

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                              @GT-JWR Hello, does anyone know if this functionality exists in the CarPlay version of the Navigation app? Is it possible to find the waypoint you wish to begin with and long press it (or equivalent) to begin a route in the middle? Thanks.

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                              @Alan-Bowen if it is in CarPlay, I haven't been able to find it/make it work...I do it from the app.

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                                No it is not available. Some improvements are still needed

                                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                                  No it is not available. Some improvements are still needed

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                                  @M-Schrijver correct!
                                  Things like this are not very trivial for CarPlay / Android Auto 🙂

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                                    Not very trivial?
                                    The question in the first post is very trivial for AA and ACP.
                                    MRA Next asks too much during the day when riding a route. Answering these questions is not possible in AA and ACP. MRA Next should asked nothing. It only must do the thing it is build for. Guides you when riding a preplanned route.

                                    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                                      Not very trivial?
                                      The question in the first post is very trivial for AA and ACP.
                                      MRA Next asks too much during the day when riding a route. Answering these questions is not possible in AA and ACP. MRA Next should asked nothing. It only must do the thing it is build for. Guides you when riding a preplanned route.

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                                      @M-Schrijver resuming navigation is possible from Android Auto, resulting in the route resuming exactly from where you stopped it.

                                      Waypoints can be skipped directly from Android Auto one by one.

                                      Skipping a lot of waypoints in one go is only possible directly from your phone. In the future that will be possible from Android Auto too 🙂

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                                        I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.

                                        When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.

                                        I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.

                                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                          I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.

                                          When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.

                                          I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.

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                                          @M-Schrijver, No single device does mind reading like you seem to want. I Personally would hate it if my Navigation chose the WP to start start a route, only based on it accidentally being closest. Don't blame the app for your problem of having a crippled AA/CP without touchscreen. If you want ALL functions of the app, just use a smartphone.

                                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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