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  • Fred Gilbertundefined Offline
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    If Here is causing high battery usage. Why can't a different map be used?

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    • Fred Gilbertundefined Fred Gilbert

      If Here is causing high battery usage. Why can't a different map be used?

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      Dave J 0
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      #2

      @Fred-Gilbert Look at this thread @Corjan-Meijerink (MRA Dev Team) in a similar topic says,

      “Well OSM doesn’t have a navigation tool (SDK) for our development platform (Flutter). So yeah, pretty impossible.

      As the battery usage is caused by the map rendering, we are looking into workarounds for that, but pretty complex too 😉

      I get another answer from HERE next week so I’ll just keep nagging them 🙂.”

      Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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      • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

        @Fred-Gilbert Look at this thread @Corjan-Meijerink (MRA Dev Team) in a similar topic says,

        “Well OSM doesn’t have a navigation tool (SDK) for our development platform (Flutter). So yeah, pretty impossible.

        As the battery usage is caused by the map rendering, we are looking into workarounds for that, but pretty complex too 😉

        I get another answer from HERE next week so I’ll just keep nagging them 🙂.”

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        Dikke Wim
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        @Dave-J-0
        Good that you keep nagging them. The high CPU usage is pretty annoying and on my iPhone and the brightness of my screen is often dimmed ....

        Hoping you find a solution.
        Keep up the good work.

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        • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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          M. Schrijver
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          Maybe Cost related but is TomTom an alternatieve?

          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

            Maybe Cost related but is TomTom an alternatieve?

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            richtea999
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            #5

            @M-Schrijver TomTom already have an app - it seems very unlikely that they'd give away the family jewels (so to speak!) to another app developer.

            Especially when MRA is such good competition, and doesn't need dedicated h/w.

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            • richtea999undefined richtea999

              @M-Schrijver TomTom already have an app - it seems very unlikely that they'd give away the family jewels (so to speak!) to another app developer.

              Especially when MRA is such good competition, and doesn't need dedicated h/w.

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              Rob Verhoeff
              wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
              #6

              @richtea999 Well, so does Here with his HERE WeGo navigation app...

              https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.here.app.maps&hl=nl&gl=US

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              • richtea999undefined richtea999

                @M-Schrijver TomTom already have an app - it seems very unlikely that they'd give away the family jewels (so to speak!) to another app developer.

                Especially when MRA is such good competition, and doesn't need dedicated h/w.

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                Jack van Tilburg
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                @richtea999 said in Alternative to Here:

                it seems very unlikely that they'd give away the family jewels

                BMW Connected app is based on TomTom.
                And I use it very often (40k km ).
                The iPhone doesn't overheat and power is no problem.
                But the iPhone does not emulate the screen on the device. Screendata is being sent to the TFT.
                But I think that most of the features of Next are impossible to implement in the TomTom engine.

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                • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                  Maybe Cost related but is TomTom an alternatieve?

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                  Lynchy67
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                  #8

                  @M-Schrijver

                  If you have an MRA Gold account you can already use the Tom Tom Curvy/Windy Routes Options.

                  Set up your Tom Tom Route using the Tom Tom Map.
                  Then “Expand” X amount of waypoints into it.
                  You will then need to switch it to the Here map and check that all the “Expanded” Waypoints are on the Here Map Routeline.

                  You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                  • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                    @M-Schrijver

                    If you have an MRA Gold account you can already use the Tom Tom Curvy/Windy Routes Options.

                    Set up your Tom Tom Route using the Tom Tom Map.
                    Then “Expand” X amount of waypoints into it.
                    You will then need to switch it to the Here map and check that all the “Expanded” Waypoints are on the Here Map Routeline.

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                    hawebo
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                    @Lynchy67 Dein Vorschlag entspricht dem Tutorial für die Erstellung kurvenreicher Routen in MRA. Das funktioniert auch gut so.
                    Aber leider löst es nicht das Problem des hohen Stromverbrauchs bei der Navigation mit den HERE-Karten.

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                    • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                      @M-Schrijver

                      If you have an MRA Gold account you can already use the Tom Tom Curvy/Windy Routes Options.

                      Set up your Tom Tom Route using the Tom Tom Map.
                      Then “Expand” X amount of waypoints into it.
                      You will then need to switch it to the Here map and check that all the “Expanded” Waypoints are on the Here Map Routeline.

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                      @Lynchy67 That doesn't help at all with the issues MRA Navigation has using the HERE map.

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                      • Fred Gilbertundefined Fred Gilbert

                        If Here is causing high battery usage. Why can't a different map be used?

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                        Rob Verhoeff
                        wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
                        #11

                        @Fred-Gilbert HERE is the only map provider that supports the Flutter design platform. Since this app is being developed on that platform, it is not possible to choose another map provider for the navigation engine.

                        See also this post with the awnser from Corjan.

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                        • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                          @Fred-Gilbert HERE is the only map provider that supports the Flutter design platform. Since this app is being developed on that platform, it is not possible to choose another map provider for the navigation engine.

                          See also this post with the awnser from Corjan.

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                          hawebo
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                          @Rob-Verhoeff said in Alternative to Here:

                          HERE is the only map provider that supports the Flutter design platform

                          Danke Rob! Damit hat sich meine Frage nach einem Kartenwechsel wohl auch erledigt 😕

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                          • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                            @Lynchy67 That doesn't help at all with the issues MRA Navigation has using the HERE map.

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                            #13

                            @Herko-ter-Horst

                            I have no issues navigating at all.
                            I always use the offline option
                            My Samsung S21+ always gives me a positive increase whenever I'm Navigating
                            I never use Voice prompts and I choose the Simple option for the Maps.
                            I only use the Offline Navigation and Skip waypoints automatically.
                            Everything else in the Functional option is turned off.

                            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                            • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                              @Herko-ter-Horst

                              I have no issues navigating at all.
                              I always use the offline option
                              My Samsung S21+ always gives me a positive increase whenever I'm Navigating
                              I never use Voice prompts and I choose the Simple option for the Maps.
                              I only use the Offline Navigation and Skip waypoints automatically.
                              Everything else in the Functional option is turned off.

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                              Drabslab
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                              @Lynchy67 said in Alternative to Here:

                              @Herko-ter-Horst

                              I have no issues navigating at all.
                              I always use the offline option
                              My Samsung S21+ always gives me a positive increase whenever I'm Navigating
                              I never use Voice prompts and I choose the Simple option for the Maps.
                              I only use the Offline Navigation and Skip waypoints automatically.
                              Everything else in the Functional option is turned off.

                              I read such drastic measures befoe on the forum.

                              If you turn off everything that makes Next interesting, then it works 🙂

                              That may be good as a temporary hack, but not as final solution, I hope.

                              It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                              • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                                @Lynchy67 said in Alternative to Here:

                                @Herko-ter-Horst

                                I have no issues navigating at all.
                                I always use the offline option
                                My Samsung S21+ always gives me a positive increase whenever I'm Navigating
                                I never use Voice prompts and I choose the Simple option for the Maps.
                                I only use the Offline Navigation and Skip waypoints automatically.
                                Everything else in the Functional option is turned off.

                                I read such drastic measures befoe on the forum.

                                If you turn off everything that makes Next interesting, then it works 🙂

                                That may be good as a temporary hack, but not as final solution, I hope.

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                                Lynchy67
                                wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
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                                @Drabslab

                                The only things interesting to me are my coloured Via Points showing me the POI’s.
                                Scenery, Viewpoints, Historic or notable Buildings, Lakes, Ponds, Mountains, Food/Drink and Fuel.

                                You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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