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The compas direction on the elevation circle is wrong

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  • LennyO Offline
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    wrote last edited by
    #18

    I also had a hard time with this....
    I guess the simplest way to grasp the Red segment position in relation to your movement is to imagine yourself sitting inside the elevation circle heading in the 12 o'clock direction.

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    • Corjan Meijerink Offline
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      #19

      It’s completely correct! Has no relation with the map. Indeed like an actual compass strapped om your screen.

      It makes sense but in north up it’s confusing.
      Pinning it north or hiding it will make most sense I guess.

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      • Con Hennekens Offline
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        #20

        It seems current generations do not have much experience with (analogue) compasses anymore 😉

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        • CD130 Offline
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          #21

          If every change has to preserve the old way of doing things, innovation simply comes to a standstill 😅 Not every new design will be everyone’s favorite right away, but progress sometimes means moving on from older concepts 🧭

          In another topic, I already mentioned that I’m not a fan of the current display. You now have to constantly think about which direction you’re heading, whereas it should be something you can understand at a glance.

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          • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

            It seems current generations do not have much experience with (analogue) compasses anymore 😉

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            @Con-Hennekens said:

            It seems current generations do not have much experience with (analogue) compasses anymore 😉

            😊 😂 🤣

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            • CD130 CD130

              If every change has to preserve the old way of doing things, innovation simply comes to a standstill 😅 Not every new design will be everyone’s favorite right away, but progress sometimes means moving on from older concepts 🧭

              In another topic, I already mentioned that I’m not a fan of the current display. You now have to constantly think about which direction you’re heading, whereas it should be something you can understand at a glance.

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              @CD130 Agree. Using a compass is to align North and then use the analogue compass to show you direction/heading you need to travel in. I then can use that dereliction to know that I and riding in the correct general direction. Knowing where North is may be fine but it is the direction of travel that matters with the app. I want a simple indication that saves me having to think.

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              • M. Schrijver Offline
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                I've never an old analogue compass at all. Maybe that is the reason why i think it is more logical that the red bar shows the direction your heading and north always is on top on the compass.
                If this view is used does the compass then also be more sensible in the North Up view?

                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                • Dave J 0 Dave J 0

                  @CD130 Agree. Using a compass is to align North and then use the analogue compass to show you direction/heading you need to travel in. I then can use that dereliction to know that I and riding in the correct general direction. Knowing where North is may be fine but it is the direction of travel that matters with the app. I want a simple indication that saves me having to think.

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                  @Dave-J-0 said:
                  I want a simple indication that saves me having to think.

                  Well the red segment always points to the north.
                  And the four directions have always been North - East - South - West, clockwise!
                  How simple do yo want!

                  kompasroos.jpg

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                  • white.mouse white.mouse

                    @Dave-J-0 said:
                    I want a simple indication that saves me having to think.

                    Well the red segment always points to the north.
                    And the four directions have always been North - East - South - West, clockwise!
                    How simple do yo want!

                    kompasroos.jpg

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                    #26

                    @white.mouse Actually a compass rose like this or similar instead of just segments would help a lot!

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                    • white.mouse white.mouse

                      @Dave-J-0 said:
                      I want a simple indication that saves me having to think.

                      Well the red segment always points to the north.
                      And the four directions have always been North - East - South - West, clockwise!
                      How simple do yo want!

                      kompasroos.jpg

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                      @white.mouse It is simple. As your picture shows with North up and all cardinals marked. However, remove the cardinals and have red segment (North) rotating and you have to start thinking which direction you are heading. This is the point that a lot of people are making with wanting a quick, clear idea of what direction they are travelling in, particularly as the North up view does not allow you to zoom out.

                      A compass is not just about knowing where North is but allows you to see the direction of travel and other paper map reading uses. I use Scenic app on occasions and the compass is great because I see where North is and, at the top, is the direction of travel as S, SW, SE etc.

                      IMG_3245.jpeg

                      This thread also talks about the same issue (for some): https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/10855/compass-with-direction/5?_=1786207196667

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                      • M. Schrijver Offline
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                        In the current situation where the red bar shows north and the bar is on right side of the compass, you need do a conversion to conclude you are riding in west direction. When the red bar shows the direction you're heading. You instant know you're riding to the east.

                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                        • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                          In the current situation where the red bar shows north and the bar is on right side of the compass, you need do a conversion to conclude you are riding in west direction. When the red bar shows the direction you're heading. You instant know you're riding to the east.

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                          wrote last edited by Brian McG
                          #29

                          the app & display are doing exactly as designed / intended
                          the issue is that in North Up mode you have to do the mental gymnastics that it shows 2 differing north at the same time 🙃

                          I have to say I find 2 norths a slightly confusing concepts but it is easily resolved
                          either use a different compass mode, I normally use dynamic so this is not a problem for me

                          or turn of the altitude display completely, its not really important / relevant information
                          & I would rather use the few brain cells I have on figuring out what is happening ahead of me on the road than deciding which north is real 😂

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                          • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                            I've never an old analogue compass at all. Maybe that is the reason why i think it is more logical that the red bar shows the direction your heading and north always is on top on the compass.
                            If this view is used does the compass then also be more sensible in the North Up view?

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                            wrote last edited by Guzzist
                            #30

                            @M.-Schrijver ...that's the same idea like in the map, if you use the north up view 🙄

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