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  • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

    I'm a bit confused and wonder if development was running in a strange direction with "navigate route as track"...?
    I know the sense of this, but my intention is, to get a gpx file which contains a track only and navigate by this.

    If I import such a file as Track or as Route-Track - the result is always the same - no matter which preferences I select: I get always a blue and a white line, if I start navigation with. That's annoying! I know, I should follow in this case the white line. But this forces unnecessary extra concentration!
    The only mitigation I found is: select this Track or Route-Track for navigation, but start as "free ride"! Result: you will get only a blue line and you can navigate by clearly following the line (as usually for track navigation).

    Same issue is reported by @Martin Wilcke https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/75062

    Second issue: if gpx files contains waypoints <wpt> (POI), the import procedure operates that like stepchilds!
    In case, gpx is imported as track, this points will never be imported!
    In case, gpx is imported as Route-Track, this points will never be imported!
    In case, gpx is imported as Route, this points will be imported as shaping points!
    But why? The export procedure does it correctly.

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    @Guzzist, like explained in that other thread, the feature "navigate route as track" has no influence on navigating an exported track-only GPX. It only has influence in routes created on the HERE map. If you open a track-only GPX, the white lines are the original track, and the blue one is where you will be navigated. It may seem odd that those are not always exactly equal, but that is due to HERE preferring roads if they are (very) close to a track when the track goes offroad (including unknown roads).

    I have seen nothing in the other thread that is not explainable, except that OSM routes seem to have no or very coarse trackpoints included for the navigate route as track feature.

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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      today i did test load track but select free ride. for me this is a almost perfect way to follow exact a track. ride a route as track always convert te blue line to roads that here knows and white line is not always easy to see.

      as in second remark it would be great if a track can be created direct inside MRA planner. i think this is already ask a few times.

      it would we also good if pio's that are saved in trackfile would show up op map. i will test this coming days if this works or not.

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        Please see this post: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/75367

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

          Please see this post: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/75367

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          @Corjan-Meijerink said in How to navigate a track?:

          Please see this post: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/75367

          to what do you revere ?.

          link to other post is not totaly the same.

          today i did test pio but they are not taken or shown on map when on freeride but also on import on website the poi from a track are not imported.

          Bouke

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          • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

            I'm a bit confused and wonder if development was running in a strange direction with "navigate route as track"...?
            I know the sense of this, but my intention is, to get a gpx file which contains a track only and navigate by this.

            If I import such a file as Track or as Route-Track - the result is always the same - no matter which preferences I select: I get always a blue and a white line, if I start navigation with. That's annoying! I know, I should follow in this case the white line. But this forces unnecessary extra concentration!
            The only mitigation I found is: select this Track or Route-Track for navigation, but start as "free ride"! Result: you will get only a blue line and you can navigate by clearly following the line (as usually for track navigation).

            Same issue is reported by @Martin Wilcke https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/75062

            Second issue: if gpx files contains waypoints <wpt> (POI), the import procedure operates that like stepchilds!
            In case, gpx is imported as track, this points will never be imported!
            In case, gpx is imported as Route-Track, this points will never be imported!
            In case, gpx is imported as Route, this points will be imported as shaping points!
            But why? The export procedure does it correctly.

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            @Guzzist said in How to navigate a track?:

            The export procedure does it correctly.

            Right. You can export POIs as GPX <wpt>, but not the other way round by uploading or importing a route, route-track or tracklog.

            The only way to get GPX <wpt> into MRA is by uploading them as POIs:
            RouteLab > upload > POI

            @Guzzist said in How to navigate a track?:

            In case, gpx is imported as Route, this points will be imported as shaping points!

            I've never seen this before. Can you share a GPX example?

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            • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

              @Corjan-Meijerink said in How to navigate a track?:

              Please see this post: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/75367

              to what do you revere ?.

              link to other post is not totaly the same.

              today i did test pio but they are not taken or shown on map when on freeride but also on import on website the poi from a track are not imported.

              Bouke

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              @Bouke-Ent said in How to navigate a track?:

              poi from a track

              If you're talking about a GPX file, there are no "POIs from a track" - there are POIs (<wpt>) and Tracks (<trk>) as separate elements.

              You can import a Track as route-track (or tracklog) and you can import POIs - but not both in one go.

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              • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                @Bouke-Ent said in How to navigate a track?:

                poi from a track

                If you're talking about a GPX file, there are no "POIs from a track" - there are POIs (<wpt>) and Tracks (<trk>) as separate elements.

                You can import a Track as route-track (or tracklog) and you can import POIs - but not both in one go.

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                @Martin-Wilcke said in How to navigate a track?:

                @Bouke-Ent said in How to navigate a track?:

                poi from a track

                If you're talking about a GPX file, there are no "POIs from a track" - there are POIs (<wpt>) and Tracks (<trk>) as separate elements.

                You can import a Track as route-track (or tracklog) and you can import POIs - but not both in one go.

                when export you have option track and poi. when i read in notepad i see track info and i see the poi info as wpt coordinates and poi name. so export is correct.

                if i import it again in mra the track is correct but poi are not there.

                did yesterday small test with mra next and same result.

                for me it would be nice to drive on a track. in some countries OSM is better the HERE for small roads or path. with this option MRA Next use will be more flexibale for me. be able to add poi would be a very nice option to add extra information to track.

                on my zumo xt it was easy to show track on map. but also there i was not able to get poi info on map.

                i believe not many people will or would use this function but for me it would be nice..

                i am now already happy with free ride as extra option to drive a track.. before i did swith over to osmand if osm find a path but here did not know roads.

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                • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                  @Corjan-Meijerink said in How to navigate a track?:

                  Please see this post: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/75367

                  to what do you revere ?.

                  link to other post is not totaly the same.

                  today i did test pio but they are not taken or shown on map when on freeride but also on import on website the poi from a track are not imported.

                  Bouke

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                  @Bouke-Ent said in How to navigate a track?:

                  link to other post is not totaly the same.

                  No, it is not the same because you changed subject mid-thread here.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Bouke-Ent said in How to navigate a track?:

                    link to other post is not totaly the same.

                    No, it is not the same because you changed subject mid-thread here.

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                    @Con-Hennekens said in How to navigate a track?:

                    @Bouke-Ent said in How to navigate a track?:

                    link to other post is not totaly the same.

                    No, it is not the same because you changed subject mid-thread here.

                    ok, then i read other in a other way. that is why i ask it.

                    i did not want to change this topic. in my believe topic was how to ride a track with one off the option to import track and ride it in free mode .
                    still because off this topic i found out this option of show track on screen in free ride. i did this before in bike mode but there was no speed.

                    i will leave this topic and i want to give big thanks to TS to show me this option.

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                    • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                      @Martin-Wilcke said in How to navigate a track?:

                      @Bouke-Ent said in How to navigate a track?:

                      poi from a track

                      If you're talking about a GPX file, there are no "POIs from a track" - there are POIs (<wpt>) and Tracks (<trk>) as separate elements.

                      You can import a Track as route-track (or tracklog) and you can import POIs - but not both in one go.

                      when export you have option track and poi. when i read in notepad i see track info and i see the poi info as wpt coordinates and poi name. so export is correct.

                      if i import it again in mra the track is correct but poi are not there.

                      did yesterday small test with mra next and same result.

                      for me it would be nice to drive on a track. in some countries OSM is better the HERE for small roads or path. with this option MRA Next use will be more flexibale for me. be able to add poi would be a very nice option to add extra information to track.

                      on my zumo xt it was easy to show track on map. but also there i was not able to get poi info on map.

                      i believe not many people will or would use this function but for me it would be nice..

                      i am now already happy with free ride as extra option to drive a track.. before i did swith over to osmand if osm find a path but here did not know roads.

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                      @Bouke-Ent said in How to navigate a track?:

                      f i import it again in mra the track is correct but poi are not there.

                      The features for GPX import and export are different:

                      You can export a route, a track and POIs in one go by using "save as gpx1.1 (route, track, poi)".

                      But you can only import either route(s), track(s) or POIs from a GPX at a time.

                      Routes and tracks are imported to your Routes Library, while POIs appear in your POI Library (you have to create or open a route to get access to them).import1.jpg import2.jpg

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