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  • guenniguenzelsenundefined guenniguenzelsen

    Hi Rob
    Thanks for your reply.
    I have the Gold subscription and followed the way you described.
    But the result is unusable. I would need to check and correct 80 waypoints.

    But if the App can calculate a route in one direction correctly, it shall be able to calculate the other way round without screwing totally up, or am I getting this wrong?

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    @guenniguenzelsen said in How to reverse route?:

    But if the App can calculate a route in one direction correctly, it shall be able to calculate the other way round without screwing totally up, or am I getting this wrong?

    I think that I am correct when I say that both the website and mobile app roundtrip generators always generate routes in a clockwise direction.

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      Yes, but for this tour I need the route counterclockwise, which seems not to be possible

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        Yes, but for this tour I need the route counterclockwise, which seems not to be possible

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        @guenniguenzelsen Yes, it is not possible to simply change the direction, but with relatively little effort, it is possible to reverse the route.

        Create a circular route in the app, then edit the route track (assigning a name at the same time).
        Then change the direction in the toolkit.

        Of course, you'll need to quickly check the points which the system has set, but you'll quickly see if there are any unnecessary detours. If so, simply delete the unwanted points and within 5 minutes you'll have a fun tour πŸ˜‰

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        • guenniguenzelsenundefined guenniguenzelsen

          Hi Rob
          Thanks for your reply.
          I have the Gold subscription and followed the way you described.
          But the result is unusable. I would need to check and correct 80 waypoints.

          But if the App can calculate a route in one direction correctly, it shall be able to calculate the other way round without screwing totally up, or am I getting this wrong?

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          @guenniguenzelsen you only have to check, where the route has other directions. If you insert the original route in the map, so that you see them both, you can directly see where it differs.

          Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

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            Of course tracks cannot be simply reversed. On the Motorbeurs in Utrecht I spoke to a customer with a similar question. His reason for wanting to reverse a roundtrip was to choose a way to avoid as much direct sunlight in the face as possible. I am not sure many people have the same wish, but a toggle (sorry @Corjan-Meijerink 🀣 ) for clockwise or counterclockwise in the roundtrip generator might make sense to many people.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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            • guenniguenzelsenundefined guenniguenzelsen

              Hi Rob
              Thanks for your reply.
              I have the Gold subscription and followed the way you described.
              But the result is unusable. I would need to check and correct 80 waypoints.

              But if the App can calculate a route in one direction correctly, it shall be able to calculate the other way round without screwing totally up, or am I getting this wrong?

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              @guenniguenzelsen said in How to reverse route?:

              Hi Rob
              Thanks for your reply.
              I have the Gold subscription and followed the way you described.
              But the result is unusable. I would need to check and correct 80 waypoints.

              But if the App can calculate a route in one direction correctly, it shall be able to calculate the other way round without screwing totally up, or am I getting this wrong?

              You should definitely check every point after using Reverse. It doesn't take long - you won't need to correct all of them.

              Here's one good reason why:

              • if one of your waypoints is on a dual carriageway (or other one-way road system), the router will not magically move your waypoint to the other side of the dual carriageway. It will route you up the (now) wrong side and back down again. That doubling back could make quite a long route!

              And another:

              • good practice for positioning waypoints is to place them after junctions rather than before (so the vital junction announcement isn't lost by the waypoint being announced). When you reverse a route all those carefully placed waypoints are now before the junctions. Arghh!
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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                Of course tracks cannot be simply reversed. On the Motorbeurs in Utrecht I spoke to a customer with a similar question. His reason for wanting to reverse a roundtrip was to choose a way to avoid as much direct sunlight in the face as possible. I am not sure many people have the same wish, but a toggle (sorry @Corjan-Meijerink 🀣 ) for clockwise or counterclockwise in the roundtrip generator might make sense to many people.

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                @Con-Hennekens said in How to reverse route?:

                a way to avoid as much direct sunlight in the face as possible

                😎

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  Of course tracks cannot be simply reversed. On the Motorbeurs in Utrecht I spoke to a customer with a similar question. His reason for wanting to reverse a roundtrip was to choose a way to avoid as much direct sunlight in the face as possible. I am not sure many people have the same wish, but a toggle (sorry @Corjan-Meijerink 🀣 ) for clockwise or counterclockwise in the roundtrip generator might make sense to many people.

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                  @Con-Hennekens said in How to reverse route?:

                  ... reason for wanting to reverse a roundtrip was to choose a way to avoid as much direct sunlight in the face as possible...

                  Yes, it may depend at the region you are driving. I have the same issue: the problem arises when cycling uphill and downhill in early spring and late autumn in my beloved Bavarian Forest region in Germany.
                  To solve this, I have devised routes that run clockwise and counter-clockwise...

                  Nothing is impossible ;-)
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                  In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                    The simplest way to check the route points is to zoom in as far as possible and then click on each point in the route points list (on the left side of the screen). You will then immediately see which points are next to the road or route and which ones may be positioned on the wrong side of the road.
                    And yes, for 80 points, that means clicking 80 times, but it works!

                    It is a good idea to do this for every route to prevent problems. This way, you can be sure that all route points are correctly positioned on the road.

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                    de Garmin Zumo XT en M.R.A. in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!)

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                      ...I believe, it may not be needed to check each and every rootpoint. There would be no problem after change of root direction at 2nd or 3rd street level; only at highways and 1st level roads with track separation. On the map this must be clearly visible. Also, you would see turnarounds of the root line. In my opinion at this points, the root line is darker...

                      Nothing is impossible ;-)
                      In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                      In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                        ...I believe, it may not be needed to check each and every rootpoint. There would be no problem after change of root direction at 2nd or 3rd street level; only at highways and 1st level roads with track separation. On the map this must be clearly visible. Also, you would see turnarounds of the root line. In my opinion at this points, the root line is darker...

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                        @Guzzist said in How to reverse route?:

                        the root line is darker...

                        It does, only when you have set a transparency to the line πŸ˜‰

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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