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  • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

    fot me i am not happy because of 2... if it would 3 no problems. but this is what it is, 3 means in my case only 2 max activated. me and my partner. for backup i have to do special method when only offline.

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    wrote last edited by Rob Verhoeff
    #18

    @Bouke-Ent I don’t see the problem! With your current subscription you always have access to three devices. What are the chances that one of them stops working while you’re on the road? Negligible. And if you do need that third one, all you have to do is click the red “exit” icon next to one of the other two devices. Problem solved. And of course you’re free to buy an extra licence—then you definitely won’t have any issues at all!

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    • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

      @Bouke-Ent I don’t see the problem! With your current subscription you always have access to three devices. What are the chances that one of them stops working while you’re on the road? Negligible. And if you do need that third one, all you have to do is click the red “exit” icon next to one of the other two devices. Problem solved. And of course you’re free to buy an extra licence—then you definitely won’t have any issues at all!

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      @Rob-Verhoeff it is good for you that you do not see the problem.... please explane how to have always acces to three devices if offline? please explane,,,,, i have a option and spoken it with support so it can work but it is a work arround.

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        Please have the discussion privately or in another topic 🙂

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

          Hi all! 👋

          Next week we will have a quick update to improve some minor issues caused by changes regarding the device limit. So this won't be the "big" next update (5.1) but just a very minor one.

          Anyway, regardless of that update we already were able to make some adjustment to the device limit logic. The following therefore does not require an app update. The change we made is that if you are blocked because of too many device, we only block your new devices. Meaning the original 2 devices you used will still be accessible. We received some feedback of users getting accidentally blocked and where they understood our rational I believe they all made a very valid point that being blocked out on all devices is a bit excessive. Hence, we've made this change 😃

          Overall we are extremely happy with the device limit feature as motorclubs / companies using one license for literally 40 people have already been blocked. This now results in them either buying the appropriate amount of licenses or simply disliking us 😉 This is still the preferred approach over raising prices for everyone to cover the costs of those abusing a single license.

          We are truly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused to legitimate users who just like to use more devices.

          Cheers,
          Corjan

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          @Corjan-Meijerink Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden. Adobe verwendet diese Logik. Damit würde die missbräuchliche Verwendung ebenso verhindert, dem User Ärger erspart bleiben und ihr Team hätte weniger Aufwand. Vor einigen Tagen habe ich eine solche Möglichkeit bei der MyRouteApp gesehen und habe darauf vertraut. Heute kam dieser Bildschirm nicht und mein Konto wurde gesperrt. (Ich habe mich bereits an den Support gewendet).

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          • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

            @Corjan-Meijerink Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden. Adobe verwendet diese Logik. Damit würde die missbräuchliche Verwendung ebenso verhindert, dem User Ärger erspart bleiben und ihr Team hätte weniger Aufwand. Vor einigen Tagen habe ich eine solche Möglichkeit bei der MyRouteApp gesehen und habe darauf vertraut. Heute kam dieser Bildschirm nicht und mein Konto wurde gesperrt. (Ich habe mich bereits an den Support gewendet).

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            #22

            @Reinhard-Punz @Cleo

            If topic is open in English, if anybody writes in English... why you write in other language?

            No all people here knows Dutch or German.

            Please, have a little respect for people that writes in English when his first language is Spanish. If we do, you can do.

            Regards.

            Lluis Arasanz

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            • Lluis Arasanzundefined Lluis Arasanz

              @Reinhard-Punz @Cleo

              If topic is open in English, if anybody writes in English... why you write in other language?

              No all people here knows Dutch or German.

              Please, have a little respect for people that writes in English when his first language is Spanish. If we do, you can do.

              Regards.

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              • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

                @Corjan-Meijerink Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden. Adobe verwendet diese Logik. Damit würde die missbräuchliche Verwendung ebenso verhindert, dem User Ärger erspart bleiben und ihr Team hätte weniger Aufwand. Vor einigen Tagen habe ich eine solche Möglichkeit bei der MyRouteApp gesehen und habe darauf vertraut. Heute kam dieser Bildschirm nicht und mein Konto wurde gesperrt. (Ich habe mich bereits an den Support gewendet).

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                @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden.

                That already is exactly how it works...
                No change necessary.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                • Lluis Arasanzundefined Lluis Arasanz

                  @Reinhard-Punz @Cleo

                  If topic is open in English, if anybody writes in English... why you write in other language?

                  No all people here knows Dutch or German.

                  Please, have a little respect for people that writes in English when his first language is Spanish. If we do, you can do.

                  Regards.

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #25

                  @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                    Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden.

                    That already is exactly how it works...
                    No change necessary.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #26

                    @Con-Hennekens Yes, I saw this option a few days ago. However, this message didn't appear today, and my account was immediately blocked. I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously. I think it shouldn't matter to the operators of the "MyRouteApp" if I use the app on more than two devices, as long as it's not at the same time. At least, that's how I understood the announcement.

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                    • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

                      @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

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                      @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                      @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

                      Perfect, thank you for using translation 👍

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                      • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

                        @Con-Hennekens Yes, I saw this option a few days ago. However, this message didn't appear today, and my account was immediately blocked. I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously. I think it shouldn't matter to the operators of the "MyRouteApp" if I use the app on more than two devices, as long as it's not at the same time. At least, that's how I understood the announcement.

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                        #28

                        @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                        I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously.

                        If you use up to three devices alternately, but at the fourth device added, you account is blocked. Three is the max limit.

                        Best regards,
                        Adrian

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                        • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                          @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

                          I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously.

                          If you use up to three devices alternately, but at the fourth device added, you account is blocked. Three is the max limit.

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                          #29

                          Thanks for the information. It's still a shame, though, and I hope the MyRouteApp developers reconsider this strategy. I understand the reasoning behind it and support it. However, if the costs are indeed incurred due to the number of simultaneous map system uses, it shouldn't matter how many devices I use the app on, as long as it's not done at the same time.

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                            #30

                            @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

                            because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
                            As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                              Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

                              I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

                              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                                Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

                                I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

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                                @M.-Schrijver, yes: profile icon top right, scroll down, second option from below: My Devices.

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                                • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                                  Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

                                  I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

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                                  @M.-Schrijver said in Statement about device limit:

                                  So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

                                  You will only be able to see the two active device. If you log on to the third, you will be asked to logoff one of the two available.

                                  Screenshot_20260227_164543.png

                                  Best regards,
                                  Adrian

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                                  MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                                  Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                    @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

                                    because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
                                    As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

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                                    @Con-Hennekens said in Statement about device limit:

                                    @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

                                    because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
                                    As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

                                    Thank you, I hadn't actually noticed that. It doesn't make the situation any more pleasant, but at least it's understandable.

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                                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                      Hi all! 👋

                                      Next week we will have a quick update to improve some minor issues caused by changes regarding the device limit. So this won't be the "big" next update (5.1) but just a very minor one.

                                      Anyway, regardless of that update we already were able to make some adjustment to the device limit logic. The following therefore does not require an app update. The change we made is that if you are blocked because of too many device, we only block your new devices. Meaning the original 2 devices you used will still be accessible. We received some feedback of users getting accidentally blocked and where they understood our rational I believe they all made a very valid point that being blocked out on all devices is a bit excessive. Hence, we've made this change 😃

                                      Overall we are extremely happy with the device limit feature as motorclubs / companies using one license for literally 40 people have already been blocked. This now results in them either buying the appropriate amount of licenses or simply disliking us 😉 This is still the preferred approach over raising prices for everyone to cover the costs of those abusing a single license.

                                      We are truly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused to legitimate users who just like to use more devices.

                                      Cheers,
                                      Corjan

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                                      @Corjan-MeijerinExactl This happened in about 2015 on SkyDemon flight planning and moving map program for the same reason users were letting multiple people log on with their details costing the company many many pounds. That was pure theft.

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                                      • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

                                        @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

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                                        @Reinhard-Punz

                                        Thanks a lot for you try. I appreciate your effort.

                                        My English is bad, I know, so I have to use also translate programs.

                                        Regards,

                                        Lluis Arasanz

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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in Statement about device limit:

                                          @Cleo your feedback was part of the decision 🙂

                                          Dat lijkt me teveel eer. Bij mijn reizen neem ik al teveel navigatie apparatuur mee maar als er een van de drie nog getroffen kan worden door een blokkade is het heel droevig. Die derde is namelijk de enige waar ik routes nog op kan aanpassen.

                                          Maar als jullie de mogelijkheid bieden om extra licenties af te nemen, bijvoorbeeld de huidige 2 met 3 licenties uitbreiden dan heb ik daar geen moeite mee, mag zelf op jaar basis als extra bij de lifetime edities.
                                          Ik heb er namelijk geen enkele moeite mee dat jullie inspanning ook beloond wordt.
                                          Ipad, Prive telefoon, zo af en toe zakelijk telefoon en een om met mijn zoon samen kunnen te rijden is net wat meer dan twee.

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                                          @Cleo
                                          2x Navigation Next om te rijden op de motor.
                                          Daarnaast routes aanpassen via een browser FireFox, Safarie, Chrome is toch geen enkel probleem ? Op een iPad, of kleine MacBook Air, ...

                                          2x Navigation Next for riding your motorbike.
                                          In addition, adjusting routes via a FireFox, Safari or Chrome browser is no problem at all, right? On an iPad or small MacBook Air, etc.

                                          2x Navigation Next pour rouler à moto.
                                          De plus, modifier les itinéraires via un navigateur FireFox, Safari ou Chrome ne pose aucun problème, n'est-ce pas ? Sur un iPad, un petit MacBook Air, ...

                                          2x Navigation Next zum Motorradfahren.
                                          Außerdem ist es doch kein Problem, Routen über einen Browser wie Firefox, Safari oder Chrome anzupassen, oder? Auf einem iPad oder einem kleinen MacBook Air ...

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