Map "spinning" when standing still

[Nick Carthew]

@LE-DIZES-Freddy said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

I just tried version 5.02 and the problem with the map spinning while stopped is still there.

Happy holidays to everyone!

Are you one of the BETA testers?

[LE DIZES Freddy]

@Nick-Carthew oui

[Corjan Meijerink]

@LE-DIZES-Freddy is that on Android itself or in Android Auto?

A big part of my fix for the map spinning caused a major issue on some Android Auto devices leading to the position not updating al all

[LE DIZES Freddy]

@Corjan-Meijerink bonsoir Cojan

sur Android , Crossacall Action X5 MRA 5.0.2-441

[Corjan Meijerink]

I won't make any further changes regarding this issue for now.
To resolve the true core of the issue - which I attempted - another solution needs to be designed. My fix resulted in major Android Auto issues.

In short: some GPS information (regarding accuracy) is missing on certain devices causing the spinning. However some Android Auto devices never report this information as the GPS is often very cheap (no offence). So I simply cannot say something like "if accuracy is missing, ignore the position update" which in reality is exactly what we'd need to do. When I tested this with simulations the spinning was indeed completely gone while when driving everything still worked as designed. But because those Android Auto devices never report certain GPS metadata, this solution cannot be used.

Now why do other apps possibly not show this issue? We completely rely on GPS data and their accuracy while other apps (especially native ones) might use extra device information from internal accelerometers etc.

[Erik Plaggenborg]

@Corjan-Meijerink I use two android devices to navigate with MRA. One a Samsung S25+ and the other is the T865 from ThorkRacing. Both devices are only having a spinning map at a stand still, not while driving.

Don't know if this information is useful, i didn't read this in this topic so thought the problem was a spinning map while driving. This never happend to my devices only at a complete stand still.

[Erik Plaggenborg]

said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

@Corjan-Meijerink I use two android devices to navigate with MRA. One a Samsung S25+ and the other is the T865 from ThorkRacing. Both devices are only having a spinning map at a stand still, not while driving.

Don't know if this information is useful, i didn't read this in this topic so thought the problem was a spinning map while driving. This never happend to my devices only at a complete stand still.

Yesterday i drove a route A2B and the only time the "spinned" was at a complete stand still. The map turnend about 180 degrees, the minute i started moving the map turned in the correct position. This kept on happening everytime i stopped for a turn or trafficlight.

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@Erik-Plaggenborg when the 441 update was rekeased I did a test with the T865X and for me the map didn’t spin at a complete stop. Are you using the T865 or like me the T865X. As fas as I know the difference those twi is the better screen and more interval memory

[peha]

The thread (at least how I meant it) is about the spinning when at a standstill; for me, there is no problem while moving. Unfortunately, the difficulties also occur on my phone (Samsung S22 Ultra) alone, without any Android Auto device involved, and they keep occurring with 5.02 as well. It happens at practically every stop, and almost every time the map then turns 180 degrees (facing the direction from where I came), causing the navigation to recalculate. Something must have changed compared to earlier versions-be it the app, the phone, or hardware conditions-because I did not have the problem this massively in the past. It drastically reduces the usefulness of the app, and it is not good news that seemingly not much can be done to solve this. I do, however, appreciate the attempts to fix it, and I am hopeful that a new solution can be found and designed over time. I like the app a lot; it's been my everyday navigation app (and especially now, with free drive, even more so)-I believe in the team's ability to eventually find a fix for the phenomenon.

[Corjan Meijerink]

I’ll definitely spend some more time!

[peha]

Thank you - much appreciated!

If there's a way I could help somehow - maybe with logs, or as a beta tester, if more are needed -, I'd gladly, please just let me know.

[Con Hennekens]

@peha said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

It happens at practically every stop, and almost every time the map then turns 180 degrees (facing the direction from where I came), causing the navigation to recalculate.

That in itself already is a strange phenomenon, since at speeds under a certain level, no recalculation should be triggered at all (because it is considered a stand still).

[LE DIZES Freddy]

@peha For me, the problem already existed with previous versions.