Thanks @Nick-Carthew for pointing out! Will be very nice @Corjan-Meijerink.

@paul-69, I won't argue about a dedicated satnav being more robust. But I found my CAT S52 adequately robust. I don't use a case, a rugged device doesn't need one. And I ride a naked bike, so airflow is also adequate. The device shuts down any connector in which water is detected. That happens for the earphone jack while riding in the pooring rain. The USB port has never been a problem, concerning water. But in pooring rain, as a precaution, I simply disconnect the phone from the charger. It can handle more than half a day navigating on it's brightest screen setting. I have used an older phone with waterproof case on my previous bike, an FJR, and found that on hot days my phone would overheat indeed. So, in my view a rugged phone is the most ideal dedicated satnav

@Philippe-Parys This is news to me. I hadn't realized that MRA Routeplanner didn't have collaborative capability. I generally don't do group rides where I might want to collaborate. So, I guess it's not really surprising that I would be clueless on this. Meh... Anyway... I know some hate it when I mention another route planner in this forum... but... Furkot has this capability. If indeed MRA Routeplanner doesn't have this capability, and it's important that you have this capability now, you could go check out Furkot to see if it will fill the bill for now... Furkot This is the help page that describes the collaborative capability you are probably after... Share your trip If you like you could collaboratively plan your trip in Furkot and then import it into MRA Routeplanner etc. You could do final tweaks in MRA Routeplanner - select appropriate map for target device (HERE for MRA Navigation for example), verify mapped route matches planned route etc. You might import both the route and track from Furkot. This will allow you to use MRA Routeplanners ability to overlay the track on the route. This might be helpful in verifying that the mapped and planned routes exactly match. Etc. Etc. Etc... Anyway... for what it's worth.

@Colin-Irvine No, not at the moment.

Moved to General section. Not related to beta navigation.

Good idea, this has been bugging me for a long time too.

Arno bedankt. Deze route had ik inderdaad al gevonden maar je hebt nog twee routes die beginnen met R03 die ik ook had vonden. Ik ben bezig met de route de Grand Alpes maar weet nog niet of het volgende gedeelte de Pyreneen wordt of links gezellig Italie induiken. Richting Italie kwam ik op je routes terecht vandaar de vragen.

OK Thanks , I am not very good with all this tec stuff but learning.

@Giuseppe-Marino Dank Uiteraard hetzelfde gewenst!

@Richard-4j Hello @Richard-4j Where do you want to set this up? On the website or in the Navigation app? Can't do both. The Here map uses the fastest route by default

@Jack-van-Tilburg TANK YOU SOOOOO SOOOOO MUCH FOR HELP All is working you save my life and my tripp. Have good day and MERRY XMAS from Scotland .

@Stephen-Garrison I wouldn't bother with this. Last year I went through this entire process of painstakingly recreating the COBDR in MRA. It took me a couple of days. The old navigation app fell flat on its face 15 minutes into the trip. You're much better off using another app for navigating the COBDR until NEXT is completed. I used Drive Mode Dashboard 2 to follow the tracks on my Carpe Iter tablet, and ran Gaia on my phone as a secondary view and for more information.

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master Thank you for your reply. I will try this out.

Just clicking on the map adds a waypoint at the end indeed. There are two methods for adding a waypoint in between existing waypoints: Drag the line from a position between waypoints, to the location you want to place the extra waypoint. The cursor changes to a balloony + symbol when you hoover the line, as an indication where to click and hold. Click ON the line in between two existing waypoints to add a waypoint bewteen thos points. Then drag that new waypoint to the location you want. I made a screen recording to show this, but it seems no small vids can be placed here.

@Corjan-Meijerink Done. Thank you!

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