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  • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

    @Laurence-2
    When importing gpx files from other planners, always select the route-track option to import.
    When i look at your route, as @Rob-Verhoeff said, it isn't well put together
    407df2bb-05d2-46c2-ba9c-f837ded39b25-image.png

    Make sure that the routepoints are placed correct on the routeline

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    #12

    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
    I appreciate the advice.
    The POI's are not all on roads, as they are photo points for a photo rally.
    I am not clear why MRA cannot manage this situation, but have to accept it.
    I moved from Zumo 660 + Mapsource to Zumo XT + MRA - let's say the jury is still out.

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    • Laurence 2undefined Laurence 2

      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
      I appreciate the advice.
      The POI's are not all on roads, as they are photo points for a photo rally.
      I am not clear why MRA cannot manage this situation, but have to accept it.
      I moved from Zumo 660 + Mapsource to Zumo XT + MRA - let's say the jury is still out.

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      wrote on last edited by Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
      #13

      @Laurence-2
      MRA can handle it, but when a notmal routepoint is placed that way, we think it is off track.
      If point 3 is a photo stop, make a viapoint of it. Then you will be forced to visit that point. And you will see the flag in your XT.

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      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

        @Laurence-2
        MRA can handle it, but when a notmal routepoint is placed that way, we think it is off track.
        If point 3 is a photo stop, make a viapoint of it. Then you will be forced to visit that point. And you will see the flag in your XT.

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        #14

        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
        That is good advice thanks.
        I have to learn to use such POI's as a guide while creating actual waypoints nearby for the route purpose.

        The XT presents it's own challenges.... I miss the "please drive to highlighted route" instruction which the 550 / 660 provided when you want to join a route from which you have detoured. I still do not have a consistent solution to use for this on the road. Any advice would be appreciated.

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        • Laurence 2undefined Laurence 2

          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
          That is good advice thanks.
          I have to learn to use such POI's as a guide while creating actual waypoints nearby for the route purpose.

          The XT presents it's own challenges.... I miss the "please drive to highlighted route" instruction which the 550 / 660 provided when you want to join a route from which you have detoured. I still do not have a consistent solution to use for this on the road. Any advice would be appreciated.

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          #15

          @Laurence-2
          Hello again,
          I have another route of 17 waypoints, made on MRA only, without anything imported.
          I cannot get the Expand function to work, I tried adding different numbers of waypoints (50, 100)
          Can anyone advise what is the issue preventing addition of waypoints in this way, please?

          Route link: https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/7392943?mode=share

          Thanks,
          LB

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          • Laurence 2undefined Laurence 2

            @Laurence-2
            Hello again,
            I have another route of 17 waypoints, made on MRA only, without anything imported.
            I cannot get the Expand function to work, I tried adding different numbers of waypoints (50, 100)
            Can anyone advise what is the issue preventing addition of waypoints in this way, please?

            Route link: https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/7392943?mode=share

            Thanks,
            LB

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            wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
            #16

            @Laurence-2 It's working for me! There are some point that have a critical position in your route such as 13 and 3. After moving point 13 and 3 I succedes in expending the route. Sometimes you see a little gap between two points. Move that point and than it will work. You have to carefully place the points. Not on a intersection, but a little further away.

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            • Laurence 2undefined Laurence 2

              @Laurence-2
              Hello again,
              I have another route of 17 waypoints, made on MRA only, without anything imported.
              I cannot get the Expand function to work, I tried adding different numbers of waypoints (50, 100)
              Can anyone advise what is the issue preventing addition of waypoints in this way, please?

              Route link: https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/7392943?mode=share

              Thanks,
              LB

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              wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
              #17

              @Laurence-2

              Using your Route directly I could not Expand it!
              I have no clue why?
              Maybe one of the Dev's can look at that?
              So I saved it as a GPX1.1 (Track, POI) then re-imported it as a Route-Track.

              Expand 1.jpg

              Then when I "Edit route-track" it works.
              Expand 2.jpg

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              • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                @Laurence-2 It's working for me! There are some point that have a critical position in your route such as 13 and 3. After moving point 13 and 3 I succedes in expending the route. Sometimes you see a little gap between two points. Move that point and than it will work. You have to carefully place the points. Not on a intersection, but a little further away.

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                #18

                @Rob-Verhoeff
                Rob,
                I did as you said:
                Revised the waypoint locations to be away from junction, a little beyond the intersection and exactly on the route. I then was able to expand the route to 50 waypoints. This will be more secure for transfer to the XT and if I go to share the route.
                So, now I know!
                Thanks,
                Laurence

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                • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                  @Laurence-2

                  Using your Route directly I could not Expand it!
                  I have no clue why?
                  Maybe one of the Dev's can look at that?
                  So I saved it as a GPX1.1 (Track, POI) then re-imported it as a Route-Track.

                  Expand 1.jpg

                  Then when I "Edit route-track" it works.
                  Expand 2.jpg

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  @Lynchy67
                  Hi Lynchy,
                  Thanks for that work-around, good to know!
                  Laurence

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #20

                    I'm having the same problem, I've used Espand many times with no hitch but now I am having the same issue
                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/7413027?mode=share

                    If it's relevanty this route was originally part of a single longer route and I split it. I suceesfully expanded the first half

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                    • simonharvestmill.co.ukundefined simonharvestmill.co.uk

                      I'm having the same problem, I've used Espand many times with no hitch but now I am having the same issue
                      https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/7413027?mode=share

                      If it's relevanty this route was originally part of a single longer route and I split it. I suceesfully expanded the first half

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                      Rob Verhoeff
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      @Simon-Wood I think your route looks a bit like a mess. What is the meaning of waypoint 4 between 12 and 13?

                      Scherm­afbeelding 2023-05-09 om 19.28.36.png

                      The other points ensure that a loop is constantly made. I understand that the expand function can't handle that.

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