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Was sind Saisonale Schliessungen? - What are seasonal closures?

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  • Rainer Treichelundefined Offline
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    What are seasonal closures?
    Online route planning MRA Web.
    Here® Engine. Motorcycle.
    For me, seasonal closures meant things like closed mountain passes in the Alps or roads closed in winter.
    Now I noticed this difference on a route with roadworks.
    I was pleased to see that Here® plans around the roadworks.
    Then I deactivated seasonal closures.
    And now Here® plans the route through the roadworks.
    It's good to know that this is possible. And I can live with it, but it's a setting that changes something significantly without the user being aware of it!

    But what are seasonal closures really?
    This is how it looks on HereWeGo®:
    Standardwert 2025-08-09 um 14.08.36.png

    Route Planning With seasonal closures activated:
    Standardwert 2025-08-05 um 07.22.22.png

    With seasonal closures deactivated:
    Standardwert 2025-08-05 um 07.23.28.png

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    Was sind Saisonale Schliessungen?
    Routenplanung online MRA Web.
    Here® Engine. Motorrad.
    Für mich waren saisonale Schliessungen z.B. gesperrte Pässe in den Alpen oder geschlossene Strassen im Winter.
    Jetzt fiel mir dieser Unterschied bei einer Route mit Baustelle auf.
    Erfreut stellte ich fest, dass Here® um die Baustelle herum plant.
    Dann deaktivierte ich Saisonale Schliessungen.
    Und Here® plant jetzt die Route durch die Baustelle.
    Gut zu wissen, dass es so sein kann. Und ich kann damit leben, aber das ist dann eine Einstellung, die etwas erheblich ändert, ohne dass der Nutzer sich dessen bewusst ist!
    Aber was sind saisonale Schliessungen jetzt wirklich.
    Auf HereWeGo® sieht es so aus.
    So mit aktiverter saisonaler Schliessung:
    So mit DEaktivierter saisonaler Schliessung:

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    • Rainer Treichelundefined Rainer Treichel

      What are seasonal closures?
      Online route planning MRA Web.
      Here® Engine. Motorcycle.
      For me, seasonal closures meant things like closed mountain passes in the Alps or roads closed in winter.
      Now I noticed this difference on a route with roadworks.
      I was pleased to see that Here® plans around the roadworks.
      Then I deactivated seasonal closures.
      And now Here® plans the route through the roadworks.
      It's good to know that this is possible. And I can live with it, but it's a setting that changes something significantly without the user being aware of it!

      But what are seasonal closures really?
      This is how it looks on HereWeGo®:
      Standardwert 2025-08-09 um 14.08.36.png

      Route Planning With seasonal closures activated:
      Standardwert 2025-08-05 um 07.22.22.png

      With seasonal closures deactivated:
      Standardwert 2025-08-05 um 07.23.28.png

      RT

      Was sind Saisonale Schliessungen?
      Routenplanung online MRA Web.
      Here® Engine. Motorrad.
      Für mich waren saisonale Schliessungen z.B. gesperrte Pässe in den Alpen oder geschlossene Strassen im Winter.
      Jetzt fiel mir dieser Unterschied bei einer Route mit Baustelle auf.
      Erfreut stellte ich fest, dass Here® um die Baustelle herum plant.
      Dann deaktivierte ich Saisonale Schliessungen.
      Und Here® plant jetzt die Route durch die Baustelle.
      Gut zu wissen, dass es so sein kann. Und ich kann damit leben, aber das ist dann eine Einstellung, die etwas erheblich ändert, ohne dass der Nutzer sich dessen bewusst ist!
      Aber was sind saisonale Schliessungen jetzt wirklich.
      Auf HereWeGo® sieht es so aus.
      So mit aktiverter saisonaler Schliessung:
      So mit DEaktivierter saisonaler Schliessung:

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      Brian McG
      wrote last edited by Brian McG
      #2

      @Rainer-Treichel "Seasonal Closures" are for things like mountain passes or roads that close over winter
      The idea is if you are planning your trip in January then you would not be able to plan your route down a road that is seasonally closed in January
      This is not helpful if your planning the journey in January & the journey is in June

      The "Disable Seasonal Closures" tells the planner to ignore the closure so you can plan for trips later in the year

      The pictures you show look more like traffic restrictions due to road works
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      • Rainer Treichelundefined Offline
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        Rainer Treichel
        wrote last edited by Rainer Treichel
        #3

        I know that, it ist the Text from the dokumentation.
        My route Shows a road closed for roadworks.
        Is that a wrong classification by Here?
        No snow in Bremen
        RT

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        • Rainer Treichelundefined Rainer Treichel

          I know that, it ist the Text from the dokumentation.
          My route Shows a road closed for roadworks.
          Is that a wrong classification by Here?
          No snow in Bremen
          RT

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          Brian McG
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          #4

          @Rainer-Treichel I would say no it is not a wrong classification by Here,
          rather the "Disable Seasonal Closures" ignores all closed roads

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            wrote last edited by
            #5

            so, it is seasonal closed roads without seasonal?

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              #6

              Hi, I tried your problem with a closed road in Mönchengladbach and see the same issue.
              If “sessional closure” is active you will be guided around the closed street, if deactivated you drive through the closed street.
              This looks like a bug in the Here map that needs to be noticed to HERE from MRA.

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                #7

                Or “it is not a bug, it is a feature”
                Perhaps someone will be able to clarify and explain this.
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                  #8

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Can you have a look into this issue?

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                    There is sometimes a thin line between closures due to road works and what we consider seasonal closures. I think it largely depends on a) how a roadwork is communicated by the responsible government and b) how that information is interpreted by HERE. I am under the impression that some longer closures are considered seasonal, while most short closures are considered to be traffic info. I am not sure there is a very strict protocol for it.

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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