Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??

Marinus van Deudekom

@GT-JWR just back from a 8 days tour in Luxemburg. I found out that when navigating offline the battery drain was less
I was surprised myself. My quadlock could keep up and most of the days I ended with more than 20% power left

GT JWR

@Marinus-van-Deudekom I did notice that in offline mode, it was better - however, when ambient temp got up there, the comibination of battery drain and temp just didn't work, unfortunately...

Rajp

@GT-JWR perfectly said, of course the fan boys on here will completely disagree and say the app is perfect in every way

M. Schrijver

@GT-JWR
I know it is not possible to keep your phone battery at room temperature. You need an Airco systeem for your battery for it. Just like an EV has.
It was a reaction to an argument where was said that some things will degrade your battery faster.

In Scotland at low temperatures (8-16 degrees celcius) MRA worked flawless on part of battery usage.
Next weekend i will go to Germany with temperatures just above 20 degrees (Celcius). Let see how MRA wil perform there.

Corjan Meijerink

@Rajp The app isn't perfect because of this.
I do believe that it nice to see how well people enjoy the app regardless of this significant flaw.

The core of this issue is out of our power. We know HERE is working on significant improvements but due to the nature of the issue and the complexity of it, it takes longer than any of us hope.

Why does one app using HERE maps show this issue and others not? This has to do with the underlying development platform. Native vs cross-platform (we do the latter). Their own cross-platform demo app and HERE WeGo also show similar (terrible) battery usage.

I was in Amsterdam last week and spoke to some board members of HERE about the issue. They are very aware of this issue, unfortunately that is all I can do.

Con Hennekens

@Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

fan boys

I think sensible people can do without such terms easily. Save those for your facebook quarrels please.

M. Schrijver

I was in the Harz (Germany) last weekend with temperatures between 20 and 25 degrees (C). Although there are still a lot of complaints. It seems some improvement were made.
My phone was kept at 100% battery level pretty easy and the phone temperature was also low.
In the past i had a lot more temperatures issues compared to my last two trips. All was done with the same phone.

Corjan Meijerink

@M-Schrijver Good to read that
HERE is continuously working on improvements but the real big blow still needs to be made. Happy that some minor adjustments already have an impact.

Andrew

I have trouble understanding this Battery issue with MRA Just had a week in europe 250 to 350 mls a day and no problem with Battery on the phone lasted all day may of gone down to 40% sometimes but worked fine, been for some rides in the UK over the last couple of weeks and battery has only been lasting for 5 or 6 hrs before phone switches off it just doesn't make sense why?

Con Hennekens

@Andrew, not everyone (not all phones) suffer from it. My CAT easily charges back to 100% during a ride, and does not get warm. I suspect a lot depends on the chipset being used.

I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

Nick Carthew

@Con-Hennekens said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

@Andrew,

I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

Just for balance. My iPhone 11 charges to +100% on a Quadlock wireless charger without problems.

M. Schrijver

@Con-Hennekens
That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

I recently made two trip with version 4.1.3 in range of 12-25 degrees (C). At both trips the battery remain at 100% and pretty cool.
Not as cool when using TomTom Go and using Spotify at the same time. But the gap is smaller than before.

That's why i suspect. Some improvement are made.

Andrew

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Andrew

I dont use wireless charging just dont understand why some day trips the phone is 100% charged and some it cuts of because it has run out of Battery.

M. Schrijver

@Andrew That is indeed a mystery

Andrew

@M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

Con Hennekens

@M-Schrijver said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

Yes but that has already been explained by Corjan's message above.

@Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

I dont use wireless charging just dont understand why some day trips the phone is 100% charged and some it cuts of because it has run out of Battery.

Does your phone get hot too? I can image that on some hot days while charging the temperature get's so high that the device decides to stop charging (or lower the level). But this is just a guess.

GT JWR

@Nick-Carthew @Andrew - ambient temps play a part in it as well. I live in Texas, and in my case, as long as the ambient temp is below ~80degF, not much of an issue. Now, the phone DOES get warmer than 'normal' operating conditons, so there is still an issue with the battery draw the app has. If the temp goes above 80degF, then it is a matter of shutting the app down and switching to Google Maps/Apple Maps or even Scenic...the app is 100% not useable at this point.

richtea999

@Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

@M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

Hippos can sleep underwater, thanks to a built-in reflex that allows them to bob up, take a breath, and sink back down without waking.

Courtesy of BBC Bitesize.

You're welcome.

Andrew

@richtea999 Thanks that something I didnt know