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Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??

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  • undefined Rajp
    1 Jul 2024, 16:07

    @GT-JWR perfectly said, of course the fan boys on here will completely disagree and say the app is perfect in every way

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    Corjan Meijerink
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    wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 07:51 last edited by
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    @Rajp The app isn't perfect because of this.
    I do believe that it nice to see how well people enjoy the app regardless of this significant flaw.

    The core of this issue is out of our power. We know HERE is working on significant improvements but due to the nature of the issue and the complexity of it, it takes longer than any of us hope.

    Why does one app using HERE maps show this issue and others not? This has to do with the underlying development platform. Native vs cross-platform (we do the latter). Their own cross-platform demo app and HERE WeGo also show similar (terrible) battery usage.

    I was in Amsterdam last week and spoke to some board members of HERE about the issue. They are very aware of this issue, unfortunately that is all I can do.

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    • undefined Rajp
      1 Jul 2024, 16:07

      @GT-JWR perfectly said, of course the fan boys on here will completely disagree and say the app is perfect in every way

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      Con Hennekens
      Alpha tester
      wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 10:34 last edited by
      #46

      @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

      fan boys

      I think sensible people can do without such terms easily. Save those for your facebook quarrels please.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        M. Schrijver
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        wrote on 9 Jul 2024, 11:19 last edited by
        #47

        I was in the Harz (Germany) last weekend with temperatures between 20 and 25 degrees (C). Although there are still a lot of complaints. It seems some improvement were made.
        My phone was kept at 100% battery level pretty easy and the phone temperature was also low.
        In the past i had a lot more temperatures issues compared to my last two trips. All was done with the same phone.

        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          9 Jul 2024, 11:19

          I was in the Harz (Germany) last weekend with temperatures between 20 and 25 degrees (C). Although there are still a lot of complaints. It seems some improvement were made.
          My phone was kept at 100% battery level pretty easy and the phone temperature was also low.
          In the past i had a lot more temperatures issues compared to my last two trips. All was done with the same phone.

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          Corjan Meijerink
          Developer
          wrote on 9 Jul 2024, 12:23 last edited by
          #48

          @M-Schrijver Good to read that 🙂
          HERE is continuously working on improvements but the real big blow still needs to be made. Happy that some minor adjustments already have an impact.

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            Andrew
            wrote on 10 Jul 2024, 18:16 last edited by
            #49

            I have trouble understanding this Battery issue with MRA Just had a week in europe 250 to 350 mls a day and no problem with Battery on the phone lasted all day may of gone down to 40% sometimes but worked fine, been for some rides in the UK over the last couple of weeks and battery has only been lasting for 5 or 6 hrs before phone switches off it just doesn't make sense why?

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              10 Jul 2024, 18:16

              I have trouble understanding this Battery issue with MRA Just had a week in europe 250 to 350 mls a day and no problem with Battery on the phone lasted all day may of gone down to 40% sometimes but worked fine, been for some rides in the UK over the last couple of weeks and battery has only been lasting for 5 or 6 hrs before phone switches off it just doesn't make sense why?

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              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 07:48 last edited by
              #50

              @Andrew, not everyone (not all phones) suffer from it. My CAT easily charges back to 100% during a ride, and does not get warm. I suspect a lot depends on the chipset being used.

              I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • undefined Con Hennekens
                12 Jul 2024, 07:48

                @Andrew, not everyone (not all phones) suffer from it. My CAT easily charges back to 100% during a ride, and does not get warm. I suspect a lot depends on the chipset being used.

                I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

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                Nick Carthew
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                wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 08:16 last edited by
                #51

                @Con-Hennekens said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                @Andrew,

                I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

                Just for balance. My iPhone 11 charges to +100% on a Quadlock wireless charger without problems.

                Always willing to help if I can.
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                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
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                  wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 08:17 last edited by
                  #52

                  @Con-Hennekens
                  That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

                  I recently made two trip with version 4.1.3 in range of 12-25 degrees (C). At both trips the battery remain at 100% and pretty cool.
                  Not as cool when using TomTom Go and using Spotify at the same time. But the gap is smaller than before.

                  That's why i suspect. Some improvement are made.

                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                    12 Jul 2024, 08:17

                    @Con-Hennekens
                    That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

                    I recently made two trip with version 4.1.3 in range of 12-25 degrees (C). At both trips the battery remain at 100% and pretty cool.
                    Not as cool when using TomTom Go and using Spotify at the same time. But the gap is smaller than before.

                    That's why i suspect. Some improvement are made.

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                    Andrew
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                      Andrew
                      wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 11:03 last edited by
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                      I dont use wireless charging just dont understand why some day trips the phone is 100% charged and some it cuts of because it has run out of Battery.

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                        12 Jul 2024, 11:03

                        I dont use wireless charging just dont understand why some day trips the phone is 100% charged and some it cuts of because it has run out of Battery.

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                        M. Schrijver
                        Valued contributor
                        wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 11:18 last edited by
                        #55

                        @Andrew That is indeed a mystery

                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                        • undefined M. Schrijver
                          12 Jul 2024, 11:18

                          @Andrew That is indeed a mystery

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                          Andrew
                          wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 11:59 last edited by
                          #56

                          @M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

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                          • undefined M. Schrijver
                            12 Jul 2024, 08:17

                            @Con-Hennekens
                            That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

                            I recently made two trip with version 4.1.3 in range of 12-25 degrees (C). At both trips the battery remain at 100% and pretty cool.
                            Not as cool when using TomTom Go and using Spotify at the same time. But the gap is smaller than before.

                            That's why i suspect. Some improvement are made.

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                            Con Hennekens
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 13:48 last edited by
                            #57

                            @M-Schrijver said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                            That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

                            Yes but that has already been explained by Corjan's message above.

                            @Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                            I dont use wireless charging just dont understand why some day trips the phone is 100% charged and some it cuts of because it has run out of Battery.

                            Does your phone get hot too? I can image that on some hot days while charging the temperature get's so high that the device decides to stop charging (or lower the level). But this is just a guess.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                              12 Jul 2024, 08:16

                              @Con-Hennekens said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                              @Andrew,

                              I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

                              Just for balance. My iPhone 11 charges to +100% on a Quadlock wireless charger without problems.

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                              GT JWR
                              Valued contributor
                              wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 15:59 last edited by
                              #58

                              @Nick-Carthew @Andrew - ambient temps play a part in it as well. I live in Texas, and in my case, as long as the ambient temp is below ~80degF, not much of an issue. Now, the phone DOES get warmer than 'normal' operating conditons, so there is still an issue with the battery draw the app has. If the temp goes above 80degF, then it is a matter of shutting the app down and switching to Google Maps/Apple Maps or even Scenic...the app is 100% not useable at this point.

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                                wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 18:20 last edited by richtea999 7 Dec 2024, 18:23
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                                @Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                @M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

                                Hippos can sleep underwater, thanks to a built-in reflex that allows them to bob up, take a breath, and sink back down without waking.

                                Courtesy of BBC Bitesize.

                                You're welcome.🤡

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                                  12 Jul 2024, 18:20

                                  @Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                  @M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

                                  Hippos can sleep underwater, thanks to a built-in reflex that allows them to bob up, take a breath, and sink back down without waking.

                                  Courtesy of BBC Bitesize.

                                  You're welcome.🤡

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                                  Andrew
                                  wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 18:27 last edited by
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                                  @richtea999 Thanks that something I didnt know 👍

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                                    Andrew
                                    wrote on 14 Jul 2024, 09:18 last edited by
                                    #61

                                    Out again yesterday On Motorbike with Android auto and while app is connected to bike with phone screen of Battery lasted OK

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                                      wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 07:14 last edited by
                                      #62

                                      Yesterday I used MRA on the motorcycle all day and the battery in the wireless Quad-lock charger was not below 80%.
                                      How What or Why I have no idea.
                                      But this does bring back the confidence that things will turn out okay

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                                        15 Jul 2024, 07:14

                                        Yesterday I used MRA on the motorcycle all day and the battery in the wireless Quad-lock charger was not below 80%.
                                        How What or Why I have no idea.
                                        But this does bring back the confidence that things will turn out okay

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                                        GT JWR
                                        Valued contributor
                                        wrote on 15 Jul 2024, 15:51 last edited by
                                        #63

                                        @Erik-35 @Andrew what was ambient temp?

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                                          15 Jul 2024, 15:51

                                          @Erik-35 @Andrew what was ambient temp?

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                                          wrote on 16 Jul 2024, 07:24 last edited by
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                                          @GT-JWR the temperature was between 17 and 23 degrees, perfect for driving, except for the rain shower 🌦

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