Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??
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@Paul-Smith-b the Tomtom can be used for planning route but the MyRoute-app always uses Here for Navigation.
@RetiredWingMan ah I see thanks. So clearly won’t make any difference to battery usage !
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@RetiredWingMan ah I see thanks. So clearly won’t make any difference to battery usage !
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This is really a point
the battery consumption is almost unacceptable.
Last week, while riding 4 days Tracks in the Eifel, I decided after lunch to continue riding with the Tomtom go Ride app.
because even with my phone on the charger the battery drained so quickly that I was afraid it would otherwise Die halfway through the day@Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!
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@Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!
@Paul-Smith-b Agree, I never use MRA, have gone back to Waze. The battery usage is a massive flaw and has been going on for far too long.
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@Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!
@Paul-Smith-b if you use Carpuride why would you leave thé screen of your phone. Put it in thé trunk and connect it to a usb power source and save a lot of battery time on your cell
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@Paul-Smith-b Agree, I never use MRA, have gone back to Waze. The battery usage is a massive flaw and has been going on for far too long.
@Robert-Smith-2 Yeah since Waze is the app to use if you want to navigate a planned route. NOT NOT NOT
Honda Goldwing GL1500,
Honda Silverwing GL 650
DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
Garmin XT sold
Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car -
@Robert-Smith-2 Yeah since Waze is the app to use if you want to navigate a planned route. NOT NOT NOT
@Marinus-van-Deudekom Lucky I also have a Garmin XT and Beeline Moto for my bikes then. The point is, if you're going to sell a nav app, ensure it is usable and doesn't run the phone battery flat. That is pretty basic stuff and its not like it hasn't been a year since the issue arose.
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@Marinus-van-Deudekom Lucky I also have a Garmin XT and Beeline Moto for my bikes then. The point is, if you're going to sell a nav app, ensure it is usable and doesn't run the phone battery flat. That is pretty basic stuff and its not like it hasn't been a year since the issue arose.
@Robert-Smith-2 It's not that basic stuff as you say. If you have your phone on a good USB powersource it still takes a lot of power but it will keep running. If you run it without a power source any nav app will run down.
The team is doing it's best to solve the problem with Here and that is exactly the problem they work for MRA en are depending on the folks at Here to get it solved. It has improved a lot but yes there'sstill work to be done.
Meanwhile smile and keep enjoying driving
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@Paul-Smith-b if you use Carpuride why would you leave thé screen of your phone. Put it in thé trunk and connect it to a usb power source and save a lot of battery time on your cell
@Marinus-van-Deudekom that is what I am now doing but it does seem to be a flaw with the MRA programme with it’s battery usage far higher than other similar apps?
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@Marinus-van-Deudekom that is what I am now doing but it does seem to be a flaw with the MRA programme with it’s battery usage far higher than other similar apps?
@Paul-Smith-b like its been said a lot. The problem is not MRA but Here and Corjan is doing his best to get it solved.
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When navigating. Do not trust only on your phone battery. Make your phone is connected to a powersupply.
Every navigation app drains your battery. One more than the other but every app does.That said. I totally acknowledge the battery usage. But somehow on my trip in Scotland MRA did not drain my battery not a single day.
Outside temps during the day where around 12 degrees (celcius).
Every day my battery stayed on 100% and the phone remains cold.
Possible cause. Lack of roads in Scotland and therefore less screen rendering needed. -
Not every one has this issue.
My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.
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Not every one has this issue.
My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.@Lynchy67 but I'm comparing like for like, I use both voice and visual, online navigation and online maps - in both apps, and Scenic doesn't drain battery half as much as MRA.
The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it
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Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps
Thoughts?
@Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:
Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps
Thoughts?
Merely a theory, but MRA uses Flutter rather than native code which I've noticed isn't necessarily as quick/efficient. That's because there's an extra layer of code to 'detach' the Flutter code from the native UI elements.
The second possible reason is that Flutter tries to redraw only the parts of the screen that have changed (as does any decent OS/library), but it's very easy to code that poorly and end up redrawing stuff that doesn't need to be refreshed. Been there, done that! If the HERE API hasn't finely tuned the redraw logic (which admittedly takes time, skill, and a sh*tload of testing), then there will be CPU cycles and battery being used unnecessarly.
Pure guesswork, though, that theory.
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@Lynchy67 but I'm comparing like for like, I use both voice and visual, online navigation and online maps - in both apps, and Scenic doesn't drain battery half as much as MRA.
The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it
@Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:
The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it
I can assure you that I do not have this issue at all. My iPhone 11 charges on my Quadlock wireless charger whilst navigating with MRA.
Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8 -
@Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:
The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it
I can assure you that I do not have this issue at all. My iPhone 11 charges on my Quadlock wireless charger whilst navigating with MRA.
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@Nick-Carthew Lol - that's because you're charging the phone - try without
@Rajp I wouldn’t expect to use any navigation app or device for any length of time without it being connected to a power supply.
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@Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:
Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps
Thoughts?
Merely a theory, but MRA uses Flutter rather than native code which I've noticed isn't necessarily as quick/efficient. That's because there's an extra layer of code to 'detach' the Flutter code from the native UI elements.
The second possible reason is that Flutter tries to redraw only the parts of the screen that have changed (as does any decent OS/library), but it's very easy to code that poorly and end up redrawing stuff that doesn't need to be refreshed. Been there, done that! If the HERE API hasn't finely tuned the redraw logic (which admittedly takes time, skill, and a sh*tload of testing), then there will be CPU cycles and battery being used unnecessarly.
Pure guesswork, though, that theory.
Cheers,
quick and dirty solution: get one of those rugged phones with huge battery. I´m using a Fossibot F101 Pro for approx. 14k km now since I switched to NN this March. It´s not connected to any network the whole day (except when I have to load the route in the morning or make adjustements during the day), functions as media player for my headset and of course tracks the route I´m riding. Nothing else. The battery will hold for 11 to 12 hours of riding (breaks included, during longer breaks the screen is turned off to save some battery life) with screen set to max. brightnes.
I´m prepared to have it loading while riding, because sometimes I just can´t get enough, though and 11 hours or so may not be enough. But that´s another story.^^
The complete solution cost me €150,-- for the phone, €20,-- for SP Connect Mount and another €21,35 for 10 pcs. of 3M 4936 adhesive strips (2 pcs. where acctually needed - that´s what they´re using to glue the windows into the skyscrapers in Dubai etc. and you´ll need something strong like that because original adhesive from SP connect etc. will not be able to hold that weight of the mobile^^).
Just my 2 cents.
Regards from Austria,
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@Nick-Carthew Lol - that's because you're charging the phone - try without
@Rajp
Charging when in use will make you phone more hot than without charging
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