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Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??

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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

    @Leen-Hoek nothing really 🙂
    We hope the issues gets resolved but it’s taking a long time.

    Minimising other apps / enabling battery saving mode helps quite often.

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    @Corjan-Meijerink I have seen your comment that HERE were working on the battery usage last year but I had the same issue this week. From reading other comments do I take it that if I use the TomTom map the battery usage may be better??

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    • Paul Smith bundefined Paul Smith b

      @Corjan-Meijerink I have seen your comment that HERE were working on the battery usage last year but I had the same issue this week. From reading other comments do I take it that if I use the TomTom map the battery usage may be better??

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      #14

      @Paul-Smith-b the Tomtom can be used for planning route but the MyRoute-app always uses Here for Navigation.

      2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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        #15

        This is really a point
        the battery consumption is almost unacceptable.
        Last week, while riding 4 days Tracks in the Eifel, I decided after lunch to continue riding with the Tomtom go Ride app.
        because even with my phone on the charger the battery drained so quickly that I was afraid it would otherwise Die halfway through the day

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        • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

          @Paul-Smith-b the Tomtom can be used for planning route but the MyRoute-app always uses Here for Navigation.

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          #16

          @RetiredWingMan ah I see thanks. So clearly won’t make any difference to battery usage !

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          • Paul Smith bundefined Paul Smith b

            @RetiredWingMan ah I see thanks. So clearly won’t make any difference to battery usage !

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            • Erik 35undefined Erik 35

              This is really a point
              the battery consumption is almost unacceptable.
              Last week, while riding 4 days Tracks in the Eifel, I decided after lunch to continue riding with the Tomtom go Ride app.
              because even with my phone on the charger the battery drained so quickly that I was afraid it would otherwise Die halfway through the day

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              @Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!

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              • Paul Smith bundefined Paul Smith b

                @Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!

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                @Paul-Smith-b Agree, I never use MRA, have gone back to Waze. The battery usage is a massive flaw and has been going on for far too long.

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                • Paul Smith bundefined Paul Smith b

                  @Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!

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                  RouteXperts
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                  #20

                  @Paul-Smith-b if you use Carpuride why would you leave thé screen of your phone. Put it in thé trunk and connect it to a usb power source and save a lot of battery time on your cell

                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                  Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                  Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                  • Robert Smith 2undefined Robert Smith 2

                    @Paul-Smith-b Agree, I never use MRA, have gone back to Waze. The battery usage is a massive flaw and has been going on for far too long.

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                    RouteXperts
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                    #21

                    @Robert-Smith-2 Yeah since Waze is the app to use if you want to navigate a planned route. NOT NOT NOT

                    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                    Honda Silverwing GL 650
                    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                    Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                      @Robert-Smith-2 Yeah since Waze is the app to use if you want to navigate a planned route. NOT NOT NOT

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                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom Lucky I also have a Garmin XT and Beeline Moto for my bikes then. The point is, if you're going to sell a nav app, ensure it is usable and doesn't run the phone battery flat. That is pretty basic stuff and its not like it hasn't been a year since the issue arose.

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                      • Robert Smith 2undefined Robert Smith 2

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Lucky I also have a Garmin XT and Beeline Moto for my bikes then. The point is, if you're going to sell a nav app, ensure it is usable and doesn't run the phone battery flat. That is pretty basic stuff and its not like it hasn't been a year since the issue arose.

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                        RouteXperts
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                        #23

                        @Robert-Smith-2 It's not that basic stuff as you say. If you have your phone on a good USB powersource it still takes a lot of power but it will keep running. If you run it without a power source any nav app will run down.
                        The team is doing it's best to solve the problem with Here and that is exactly the problem they work for MRA en are depending on the folks at Here to get it solved. It has improved a lot but yes there'sstill work to be done.
                        Meanwhile smile and keep enjoying driving 🙂

                        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                        Honda Silverwing GL 650
                        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                        • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                          @Paul-Smith-b if you use Carpuride why would you leave thé screen of your phone. Put it in thé trunk and connect it to a usb power source and save a lot of battery time on your cell

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                          #24

                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom that is what I am now doing but it does seem to be a flaw with the MRA programme with it’s battery usage far higher than other similar apps?

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                          • Paul Smith bundefined Paul Smith b

                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom that is what I am now doing but it does seem to be a flaw with the MRA programme with it’s battery usage far higher than other similar apps?

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                            Marinus van Deudekom
                            RouteXperts
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                            #25

                            @Paul-Smith-b like its been said a lot. The problem is not MRA but Here and Corjan is doing his best to get it solved.

                            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                            Honda Silverwing GL 650
                            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                              M. Schrijver
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                              When navigating. Do not trust only on your phone battery. Make your phone is connected to a powersupply.
                              Every navigation app drains your battery. One more than the other but every app does.

                              That said. I totally acknowledge the battery usage. But somehow on my trip in Scotland MRA did not drain my battery not a single day.
                              Outside temps during the day where around 12 degrees (celcius).
                              Every day my battery stayed on 100% and the phone remains cold.
                              Possible cause. Lack of roads in Scotland and therefore less screen rendering needed.

                              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                                Thoughts?

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                                  #28

                                  @Rajp

                                  Not every one has this issue.
                                  My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
                                  It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.

                                  You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                                  • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                                    @Rajp

                                    Not every one has this issue.
                                    My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
                                    It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.

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                                    #29

                                    @Lynchy67 but I'm comparing like for like, I use both voice and visual, online navigation and online maps - in both apps, and Scenic doesn't drain battery half as much as MRA.

                                    The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

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                                    • Rajpundefined Rajp

                                      Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                                      Thoughts?

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                                      #30

                                      @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                      Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                                      Thoughts?

                                      Merely a theory, but MRA uses Flutter rather than native code which I've noticed isn't necessarily as quick/efficient. That's because there's an extra layer of code to 'detach' the Flutter code from the native UI elements.

                                      The second possible reason is that Flutter tries to redraw only the parts of the screen that have changed (as does any decent OS/library), but it's very easy to code that poorly and end up redrawing stuff that doesn't need to be refreshed. Been there, done that! If the HERE API hasn't finely tuned the redraw logic (which admittedly takes time, skill, and a sh*tload of testing), then there will be CPU cycles and battery being used unnecessarly.

                                      Pure guesswork, though, that theory. 🙄

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                                      • Rajpundefined Rajp

                                        @Lynchy67 but I'm comparing like for like, I use both voice and visual, online navigation and online maps - in both apps, and Scenic doesn't drain battery half as much as MRA.

                                        The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

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                                        @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                        The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

                                        I can assure you that I do not have this issue at all. My iPhone 11 charges on my Quadlock wireless charger whilst navigating with MRA.

                                        Always willing to help if I can.
                                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                                        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                          @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                          The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

                                          I can assure you that I do not have this issue at all. My iPhone 11 charges on my Quadlock wireless charger whilst navigating with MRA.

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                                          @Nick-Carthew Lol - that's because you're charging the phone - try without

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