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  • undefined Robert Smith 2
    18 Jun 2024, 13:26

    @Paul-Smith-b Agree, I never use MRA, have gone back to Waze. The battery usage is a massive flaw and has been going on for far too long.

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    Marinus van Deudekom
    RouteXperts
    wrote on 18 Jun 2024, 13:39 last edited by
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    @Robert-Smith-2 Yeah since Waze is the app to use if you want to navigate a planned route. NOT NOT NOT

    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
    Honda Silverwing GL 650
    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
    Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      18 Jun 2024, 13:39

      @Robert-Smith-2 Yeah since Waze is the app to use if you want to navigate a planned route. NOT NOT NOT

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      wrote on 18 Jun 2024, 13:48 last edited by
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      @Marinus-van-Deudekom Lucky I also have a Garmin XT and Beeline Moto for my bikes then. The point is, if you're going to sell a nav app, ensure it is usable and doesn't run the phone battery flat. That is pretty basic stuff and its not like it hasn't been a year since the issue arose.

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      • undefined Robert Smith 2
        18 Jun 2024, 13:48

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Lucky I also have a Garmin XT and Beeline Moto for my bikes then. The point is, if you're going to sell a nav app, ensure it is usable and doesn't run the phone battery flat. That is pretty basic stuff and its not like it hasn't been a year since the issue arose.

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        RouteXperts
        wrote on 18 Jun 2024, 14:15 last edited by
        #23

        @Robert-Smith-2 It's not that basic stuff as you say. If you have your phone on a good USB powersource it still takes a lot of power but it will keep running. If you run it without a power source any nav app will run down.
        The team is doing it's best to solve the problem with Here and that is exactly the problem they work for MRA en are depending on the folks at Here to get it solved. It has improved a lot but yes there'sstill work to be done.
        Meanwhile smile and keep enjoying driving 🙂

        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
        Honda Silverwing GL 650
        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
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        • undefined Marinus van Deudekom
          18 Jun 2024, 13:38

          @Paul-Smith-b if you use Carpuride why would you leave thé screen of your phone. Put it in thé trunk and connect it to a usb power source and save a lot of battery time on your cell

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          wrote on 19 Jun 2024, 15:36 last edited by
          #24

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom that is what I am now doing but it does seem to be a flaw with the MRA programme with it’s battery usage far higher than other similar apps?

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          • undefined Paul Smith b
            19 Jun 2024, 15:36

            @Marinus-van-Deudekom that is what I am now doing but it does seem to be a flaw with the MRA programme with it’s battery usage far higher than other similar apps?

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            Marinus van Deudekom
            RouteXperts
            wrote on 19 Jun 2024, 18:25 last edited by
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            @Paul-Smith-b like its been said a lot. The problem is not MRA but Here and Corjan is doing his best to get it solved.

            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
            Honda Silverwing GL 650
            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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              M. Schrijver
              wrote on 21 Jun 2024, 08:43 last edited by
              #26

              When navigating. Do not trust only on your phone battery. Make your phone is connected to a powersupply.
              Every navigation app drains your battery. One more than the other but every app does.

              That said. I totally acknowledge the battery usage. But somehow on my trip in Scotland MRA did not drain my battery not a single day.
              Outside temps during the day where around 12 degrees (celcius).
              Every day my battery stayed on 100% and the phone remains cold.
              Possible cause. Lack of roads in Scotland and therefore less screen rendering needed.

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                Rajp
                wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 13:47 last edited by
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                Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                Thoughts?

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                  Lynchy67
                  wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 15:13 last edited by Lynchy67
                  #28

                  @Rajp

                  Not every one has this issue.
                  My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
                  It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.

                  You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                  • undefined Lynchy67
                    24 Jun 2024, 15:13

                    @Rajp

                    Not every one has this issue.
                    My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
                    It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.

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                    Rajp
                    wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 15:23 last edited by
                    #29

                    @Lynchy67 but I'm comparing like for like, I use both voice and visual, online navigation and online maps - in both apps, and Scenic doesn't drain battery half as much as MRA.

                    The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

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                    • undefined Rajp
                      24 Jun 2024, 13:47

                      Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                      Thoughts?

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                      richtea999
                      wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 15:36 last edited by richtea999
                      #30

                      @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                      Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                      Thoughts?

                      Merely a theory, but MRA uses Flutter rather than native code which I've noticed isn't necessarily as quick/efficient. That's because there's an extra layer of code to 'detach' the Flutter code from the native UI elements.

                      The second possible reason is that Flutter tries to redraw only the parts of the screen that have changed (as does any decent OS/library), but it's very easy to code that poorly and end up redrawing stuff that doesn't need to be refreshed. Been there, done that! If the HERE API hasn't finely tuned the redraw logic (which admittedly takes time, skill, and a sh*tload of testing), then there will be CPU cycles and battery being used unnecessarly.

                      Pure guesswork, though, that theory. 🙄

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                      • undefined Rajp
                        24 Jun 2024, 15:23

                        @Lynchy67 but I'm comparing like for like, I use both voice and visual, online navigation and online maps - in both apps, and Scenic doesn't drain battery half as much as MRA.

                        The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

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                        wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 15:52 last edited by
                        #31

                        @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                        The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

                        I can assure you that I do not have this issue at all. My iPhone 11 charges on my Quadlock wireless charger whilst navigating with MRA.

                        Always willing to help if I can.
                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                        • undefined Nick Carthew
                          24 Jun 2024, 15:52

                          @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                          The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

                          I can assure you that I do not have this issue at all. My iPhone 11 charges on my Quadlock wireless charger whilst navigating with MRA.

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                          Rajp
                          wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 15:53 last edited by
                          #32

                          @Nick-Carthew Lol - that's because you're charging the phone - try without

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                          • undefined Rajp
                            24 Jun 2024, 15:53

                            @Nick-Carthew Lol - that's because you're charging the phone - try without

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                            Nick Carthew
                            RouteXperts Instructor
                            wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 15:57 last edited by
                            #33

                            @Rajp I wouldn’t expect to use any navigation app or device for any length of time without it being connected to a power supply.

                            Always willing to help if I can.
                            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                            • undefined richtea999
                              24 Jun 2024, 15:36

                              @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                              Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                              Thoughts?

                              Merely a theory, but MRA uses Flutter rather than native code which I've noticed isn't necessarily as quick/efficient. That's because there's an extra layer of code to 'detach' the Flutter code from the native UI elements.

                              The second possible reason is that Flutter tries to redraw only the parts of the screen that have changed (as does any decent OS/library), but it's very easy to code that poorly and end up redrawing stuff that doesn't need to be refreshed. Been there, done that! If the HERE API hasn't finely tuned the redraw logic (which admittedly takes time, skill, and a sh*tload of testing), then there will be CPU cycles and battery being used unnecessarly.

                              Pure guesswork, though, that theory. 🙄

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                              Erdna
                              wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 15:57 last edited by
                              #34

                              Cheers,

                              quick and dirty solution: get one of those rugged phones with huge battery. I´m using a Fossibot F101 Pro for approx. 14k km now since I switched to NN this March. It´s not connected to any network the whole day (except when I have to load the route in the morning or make adjustements during the day), functions as media player for my headset and of course tracks the route I´m riding. Nothing else. The battery will hold for 11 to 12 hours of riding (breaks included, during longer breaks the screen is turned off to save some battery life) with screen set to max. brightnes.

                              I´m prepared to have it loading while riding, because sometimes I just can´t get enough, though and 11 hours or so may not be enough. But that´s another story.^^

                              The complete solution cost me €150,-- for the phone, €20,-- for SP Connect Mount and another €21,35 for 10 pcs. of 3M 4936 adhesive strips (2 pcs. where acctually needed - that´s what they´re using to glue the windows into the skyscrapers in Dubai etc. and you´ll need something strong like that because original adhesive from SP connect etc. will not be able to hold that weight of the mobile^^).

                              Just my 2 cents. 🙂

                              Regards from Austria,
                              André

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                              • undefined Rajp
                                24 Jun 2024, 15:53

                                @Nick-Carthew Lol - that's because you're charging the phone - try without

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                                M. Schrijver
                                wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 15:58 last edited by
                                #35

                                @Rajp
                                Charging when in use will make you phone more hot than without charging

                                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                • undefined Nick Carthew
                                  24 Jun 2024, 15:57

                                  @Rajp I wouldn’t expect to use any navigation app or device for any length of time without it being connected to a power supply.

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                                  wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 16:05 last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @Nick-Carthew Why not? I want to converse my battery health and not degrade it by constantly charging it.

                                  I did 8 hours riding using Scenic navigation with the phone without charging and battery had just over 60% left from 90% charge. Tried to do the same with MRA and was down to 5% by hour 5. Same background apps running, same route.

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                                  • undefined M. Schrijver
                                    24 Jun 2024, 15:58

                                    @Rajp
                                    Charging when in use will make you phone more hot than without charging

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                                    wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 16:16 last edited by
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                                    @M-Schrijver and constantly charging will degrade your battery health

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                                      wrote on 24 Jun 2024, 16:51 last edited by
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                                      Heavy usage were phone gets hots also.
                                      Often little amount charging do not degrade more quick than less but longer.
                                      A Li-ion has a max. amount of cycles. 1 cycles is from 100% to 0% and then charging back to 100%. How you divide those charges does not matter for the degradation.
                                      A few things which speed up the degradation.

                                      • Keep the battery for a long time at 100% without using it
                                      • Heavy usage. Drain the battery faster than you should be considering the health of the battery. Temperature of the battery is your instrument for measurement.
                                      • Drain your battery to 0% or almost 0% before charging.

                                      Best way to keep your battery at good health as long as possible

                                      • Always keep your battery between 10% and 80%. Especially when not using it for a long time.
                                      • Keep the temperature of your Li-ion battery at ALL time at room-temperature. Even when charging.

                                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                      • undefined Rajp
                                        24 Jun 2024, 13:47

                                        Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                                        Thoughts?

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                                        wrote on 25 Jun 2024, 08:50 last edited by Con Hennekens
                                        #39

                                        @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                        Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps
                                        Thoughts?

                                        Maps having the same HERE badge do not mean they come from the same source, let alone the same SDK is used. I believe HERE offers multiple SDK environments. The one MRA uses is the latest one, and that's probably why some child diseases occur. HERE's own WeGo app is built on the same SDK and shows the same problem concerning battery drain.

                                        @Lynchy67 said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                        My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
                                        It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.

                                        I cannot remember this statement, and I would be surprised if it works that way, since the problem is confirmed to be related to the rendering of the map. Are you by any chance navigating without the sound by tapping "Open route" instead of "Navigate"? If that is the case, you are actually not using the HERE map, nor the Next navigation module based on the HERE SDK 😉

                                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                                          24 Jun 2024, 16:51

                                          Heavy usage were phone gets hots also.
                                          Often little amount charging do not degrade more quick than less but longer.
                                          A Li-ion has a max. amount of cycles. 1 cycles is from 100% to 0% and then charging back to 100%. How you divide those charges does not matter for the degradation.
                                          A few things which speed up the degradation.

                                          • Keep the battery for a long time at 100% without using it
                                          • Heavy usage. Drain the battery faster than you should be considering the health of the battery. Temperature of the battery is your instrument for measurement.
                                          • Drain your battery to 0% or almost 0% before charging.

                                          Best way to keep your battery at good health as long as possible

                                          • Always keep your battery between 10% and 80%. Especially when not using it for a long time.
                                          • Keep the temperature of your Li-ion battery at ALL time at room-temperature. Even when charging.
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                                          GT JWR
                                          wrote on 1 Jul 2024, 14:42 last edited by GT JWR 7 Jan 2024, 14:45
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                                          @M-Schrijver @NICK CARTHEW impossible to charge at room temperature all the time. Just finished a 10 day, 4000mi bike trip, where ambient temps were in excess of 90degF (12degC = 54degF....at those temps, I also do not have issues) for 6 of those days. With the combination of excessive battery drain by the app, and the added heat of the charging, combined with the ambient temp rendered MRA nav 100% useless, as the phone also goes into protect mode and dims the screen and it cannot be seen. It got shelved on day 3, and Scenic app took over....flawlessly, I might add.

                                          So as @Rajp mentions, I too, am curious as to why Scenic (and Google, and Apple to name a few others), do not have such a severe issue?

                                          And for the critics out there that will see this as negative, perahps it is, however, the only way to improve is to know the issues. As mentioned many times, this has been a known issue for over a year, no matter if it is a HERE problem or not, it is MRA's name on the app, therefore, the critique must go there. It's like having issues with a vehicle purchased at a dealership - it is the dealership that you deal with when issues arrive, not directly with the manufacturer.

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