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    Jörgen
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    wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 09:30 last edited by
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    Hi,
    just an idea to make life easier. It would be nice if you set a waypoint to ask directly if this WP should be a shaping or via point.

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    This prevents three extra clicks to change from shapping to via point.

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      29 Oct 2023, 09:30

      Hi,
      just an idea to make life easier. It would be nice if you set a waypoint to ask directly if this WP should be a shaping or via point.

      screen561.jpg

      This prevents three extra clicks to change from shapping to via point.

      70b1adbb-67c9-415d-ab69-b97d245f633a-image.png

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      Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
      RouteXpert
      wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 09:38 last edited by
      #2

      Hi @Jörgen
      Most points will be shaping-points, only a few will be via-points in my experience, so you only have to change the shaping-points you want to change to a via-point and not have to click at each point to make a choice.

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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        29 Oct 2023, 09:30

        Hi,
        just an idea to make life easier. It would be nice if you set a waypoint to ask directly if this WP should be a shaping or via point.

        screen561.jpg

        This prevents three extra clicks to change from shapping to via point.

        70b1adbb-67c9-415d-ab69-b97d245f633a-image.png

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        Nick Carthew
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        wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 09:45 last edited by
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        @Jörgen This would add one extra click for each shaping point. So it probably wouldn’t save any time for most users.

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        • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
          29 Oct 2023, 09:38

          Hi @Jörgen
          Most points will be shaping-points, only a few will be via-points in my experience, so you only have to change the shaping-points you want to change to a via-point and not have to click at each point to make a choice.

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          wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 12:07 last edited by
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          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Query when setting waypoint:

          Hi @Jörgen
          Most points will be shaping-points, only a few will be via-points in my experience, so you only have to change the shaping-points you want to change to a via-point and not have to click at each point to make a choice.

          I agree, absolutely.

          Shaping points are used far more often than via-points. On the rare occasion that a via-point is needed, it hardly takes long to change it from a shaping point.

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            Jörgen
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            wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 15:53 last edited by
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            Ok understand, but may be it could be an option by pressing CTRL, shift or ALT to make a VIA point.

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              29 Oct 2023, 15:53

              Ok understand, but may be it could be an option by pressing CTRL, shift or ALT to make a VIA point.

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              Con Hennekens
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              wrote on 30 Oct 2023, 08:30 last edited by
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              @Jörgen said in Query when setting waypoint:

              Ok understand, but may be it could be an option by pressing CTRL, shift or ALT to make a VIA point.

              That, in itself, is not a bad idea. Or maybe something with a right-click.

              Discussion on the forum often is about adding via-points to ensure the shape of the route. That really is not what it is intended for. It is intended to prevent missing of obligatory stops, like lunch or rest stops, by the auto-skip function.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                Jure Sirena 0
                wrote on 30 Oct 2023, 15:20 last edited by Jure Sirena 0
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                I defenetely vote for this option. Especialy when you need to transfer route to bloody garmins this is important.

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                  30 Oct 2023, 15:20

                  I defenetely vote for this option. Especialy when you need to transfer route to bloody garmins this is important.

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                  wrote on 30 Oct 2023, 15:57 last edited by
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                  @Jure-Sirena-0, Why? I think you are using the wrong format then.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    30 Oct 2023, 15:57

                    @Jure-Sirena-0, Why? I think you are using the wrong format then.

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                    Jure Sirena 0
                    wrote on 30 Oct 2023, 18:25 last edited by
                    #9

                    @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

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                      30 Oct 2023, 18:25

                      @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

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                      RouteXpert
                      wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 05:20 last edited by
                      #10

                      @Jure-Sirena-0

                      gpx 1.2 is a route-track with via points, the route-track is converted into a route by the XT(2), so you have a route as planned with only the via points in it.
                      You must have included some via points in your route outside the start and end points. Transferring with the connector or with the Garmanin Drive app works well. The Garmin Tread app cannot handle routes and produces a discrepancy. The Track is processed well by the Tread App and Garmin Explore.

                      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                        30 Oct 2023, 18:25

                        @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

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                        wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 07:43 last edited by
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                        @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

                        • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
                        • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
                        • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

                        So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
                        Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                          31 Oct 2023, 07:43

                          @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

                          • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
                          • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
                          • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

                          So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
                          Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

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                          Jure Sirena 0
                          wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 10:23 last edited by
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                          @Con-Hennekens i never drive a track, just route. Its why we use 1.1 and waypoints.

                          If we use 1.2 it happens that some waypoints or shaping points are not imported at all (its xT2 tread app issue)

                          So by being able to choose waypoint / shaping point on the fly it helps

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                            31 Oct 2023, 05:20

                            @Jure-Sirena-0

                            gpx 1.2 is a route-track with via points, the route-track is converted into a route by the XT(2), so you have a route as planned with only the via points in it.
                            You must have included some via points in your route outside the start and end points. Transferring with the connector or with the Garmanin Drive app works well. The Garmin Tread app cannot handle routes and produces a discrepancy. The Track is processed well by the Tread App and Garmin Explore.

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                            wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 10:26 last edited by
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                            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                            As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

                            Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
                            When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

                            Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

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                              31 Oct 2023, 07:43

                              @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

                              • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
                              • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
                              • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

                              So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
                              Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

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                              RouteXpert
                              wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 14:53 last edited by
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                              @Con-Hennekens said in Query when setting waypoint:

                              if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
                              if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
                              if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

                              So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.

                              gpx 1.2 is a route-track with viapoints, the route-track will be converted to a route in your XT(2)

                              Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                31 Oct 2023, 10:26

                                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                                As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

                                Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
                                When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

                                Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

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                                RouteXpert
                                wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 14:57 last edited by Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
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                                @Jure-Sirena-0

                                If you only have a start and end point, you have the track.

                                If you compose the route properly, a GPX 1.2 also works perfectly, I don't use anything else.
                                If you use the connector, a GPX 1.2 will also work well in an XT2

                                If you use the Tread app, it is best to use the GPX 1.1 and its track, because the Tread app and the Garmin Explore website cannot yet process route files properly. A track is processed properly.

                                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                  31 Oct 2023, 10:26

                                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                                  As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

                                  Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
                                  When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

                                  Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

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                                  wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 21:05 last edited by
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                                  @Jure-Sirena-0

                                  I also have the XT2.
                                  You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                                  Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                                  Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                                  Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                                  90511.png

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                                    31 Oct 2023, 21:05

                                    @Jure-Sirena-0

                                    I also have the XT2.
                                    You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                                    Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                                    Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                                    Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                                    90511.png

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                                    wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 21:19 last edited by
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                                    @Lynchy67 I wanna drive that loop on my Tiger now! 🙂

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                                      31 Oct 2023, 21:19

                                      @Lynchy67 I wanna drive that loop on my Tiger now! 🙂

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                                      wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 21:25 last edited by Lynchy67
                                      #18

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink
                                      ,
                                      I reckon it would love it, 90% country lanes, you know, the ones with the grass/moss in the middle.
                                      Whilst it wasn't raining today there must have been a lot of rain overnight, the Tiger1200 Rally Pro got a bit dirty, as it should.
                                      I ran the route with MyRoute-App not the XT2 which is my back up.
                                      Haven't had to use the XT2 once yet. 👍

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                                        31 Oct 2023, 21:05

                                        @Jure-Sirena-0

                                        I also have the XT2.
                                        You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                                        Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                                        Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                                        Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                                        90511.png

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                                        wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 23:44 last edited by
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                                        @Lynchy67 guys thanks for help but we cant use connector in moto tour company….10-20 devices sometimes need to be managed on the fly and then all synced asap. i know how to use connector.
                                        As said all is well I adapt some things and use only 1.1

                                        But its all about original post not about files and connectors - it would really help to have this option.

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                                          31 Oct 2023, 21:05

                                          @Jure-Sirena-0

                                          I also have the XT2.
                                          You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                                          Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                                          Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                                          Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                                          90511.png

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                                          wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 05:04 last edited by
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                                          @Lynchy67

                                          And here the gpx 1.2 route, Track and via points
                                          Black = Track
                                          5aa48009-5c07-4420-8af0-de6dcf59cfd5-25792.png

                                          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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