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  • Martin Wilckeundefined Offline
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    Martin Wilcke
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    When I plan a motorbike trip, I first make a list of POIs that I (probably) want to visit.
    In the second step, I plan individual routes in which I add the corresponding POIs as Viapoints. In the process, of course, I sometimes discover more POIs that I want to add to my list.

    However, I cannot create a POI list within MRA Route Planner.

    The only way I can think of is to plan a dummy route in which I collect the various POIs together. If a certain point is already included in an existing POI collection (either the lists included in MRA or one of my own uploaded list), I can add it as a POI to the route. I can then split or copy the dummy route into individual routes to plan my day trips.
    If I want to add POIs that are not already in a collection, I have to create favourites instead - which I don't want to do because I use favourites for a different purpose.
    All in all, it's not really a smooth way.

    Alternatively, I could create my POI list with another app and then load it into MRA. That works fine - but of course I would like to do everything with MRA 🙂

    Any ideas for a better workflow?

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    • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

      When I plan a motorbike trip, I first make a list of POIs that I (probably) want to visit.
      In the second step, I plan individual routes in which I add the corresponding POIs as Viapoints. In the process, of course, I sometimes discover more POIs that I want to add to my list.

      However, I cannot create a POI list within MRA Route Planner.

      The only way I can think of is to plan a dummy route in which I collect the various POIs together. If a certain point is already included in an existing POI collection (either the lists included in MRA or one of my own uploaded list), I can add it as a POI to the route. I can then split or copy the dummy route into individual routes to plan my day trips.
      If I want to add POIs that are not already in a collection, I have to create favourites instead - which I don't want to do because I use favourites for a different purpose.
      All in all, it's not really a smooth way.

      Alternatively, I could create my POI list with another app and then load it into MRA. That works fine - but of course I would like to do everything with MRA 🙂

      Any ideas for a better workflow?

      Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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      Marinus van Deudekom
      RouteXperts
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      #2

      @Martin-W or add the poi after you created a route

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      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

        @Martin-W or add the poi after you created a route

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        Martin Wilcke
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        #3

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom
        I would like to create a POI list and have these POIs displayed on the map so that I can plan my routes along the POIs and set Viapoints (as close as possible to a POI but always on the road).
        To be able to transfer the POIs together with the route as waypoints to my Garmin Zumo XT would be a nice add-on, but not my main goal.

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        • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

          When I plan a motorbike trip, I first make a list of POIs that I (probably) want to visit.
          In the second step, I plan individual routes in which I add the corresponding POIs as Viapoints. In the process, of course, I sometimes discover more POIs that I want to add to my list.

          However, I cannot create a POI list within MRA Route Planner.

          The only way I can think of is to plan a dummy route in which I collect the various POIs together. If a certain point is already included in an existing POI collection (either the lists included in MRA or one of my own uploaded list), I can add it as a POI to the route. I can then split or copy the dummy route into individual routes to plan my day trips.
          If I want to add POIs that are not already in a collection, I have to create favourites instead - which I don't want to do because I use favourites for a different purpose.
          All in all, it's not really a smooth way.

          Alternatively, I could create my POI list with another app and then load it into MRA. That works fine - but of course I would like to do everything with MRA 🙂

          Any ideas for a better workflow?

          Jack van Tilburgundefined Offline
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          Jack van Tilburg
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @Martin-W
          You can create your own POI list. It is laborious.
          Open a new route - go to <Points of interest> in the left column and choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it. Repeat with all the POIs you want to create.
          Then go to the menu at the top of the screen and choose <Save as>. There you will find the option for POI.
          Then go to <Routlab> and choose <Upload> and in the next window "POI". Follow the clue.
          Your POI list is now listed under the "Library" tab

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          • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

            @Martin-W
            You can create your own POI list. It is laborious.
            Open a new route - go to <Points of interest> in the left column and choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it. Repeat with all the POIs you want to create.
            Then go to the menu at the top of the screen and choose <Save as>. There you will find the option for POI.
            Then go to <Routlab> and choose <Upload> and in the next window "POI". Follow the clue.
            Your POI list is now listed under the "Library" tab

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            Martin Wilcke
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Jack-van-Tilburg
            wow - all thumbs up!

            choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it.

            I hadn't discovered that yet - a good way to define your own POIs. Thanks for the tip!

            The option to save the result as POIs and upload works well, but is indeed complicated.
            In the meantime, I like the way via a "dummy route" as a copy template a bit. One advantage is that POIs contained in a route (tab <manage>) are always visible on the map, regardless of the zoom level. This is different for POIs from an existing collection (<Search>, <Library>).

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              Don Stauffer
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              @Jack-van-Tilburg @Jack-van-Tilburg I have been following this with interest. I opened a route that had POI's that I created. I followed the procedure as described.

              I then created a new route, and I was able to upload my POI file (CSV), and see the POI group listed in POI Library.

              However, I do not see the saved POIs on my new, empty route. I set the check mark in the Library tab, but I see nothing on the map, and the Manage tab is empty.

              I was expecting a reusable library of user POIs that could be used on any route.

              Perhaps I am misunderstanding the use of the POI library, or perhaps I am missing a step.

              I would appreciate clarification on the POI Library feature.

              Thank You!

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              • Don Staufferundefined Don Stauffer

                @Jack-van-Tilburg @Jack-van-Tilburg I have been following this with interest. I opened a route that had POI's that I created. I followed the procedure as described.

                I then created a new route, and I was able to upload my POI file (CSV), and see the POI group listed in POI Library.

                However, I do not see the saved POIs on my new, empty route. I set the check mark in the Library tab, but I see nothing on the map, and the Manage tab is empty.

                I was expecting a reusable library of user POIs that could be used on any route.

                Perhaps I am misunderstanding the use of the POI library, or perhaps I am missing a step.

                I would appreciate clarification on the POI Library feature.

                Thank You!

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                Martin Wilcke
                wrote on last edited by Martin Wilcke
                #7

                @Don-Stauffer
                My understanding so far:

                1. POI collections in <Search> are available for all users in all new (and existing) routes.

                2. POIs in <Library> are also available in all routes, but only for the user who added the collection with upload.

                3. POIs in <Manage>, on the other hand, are bound to exactly this route.

                So when you create a new route, you can access the POIs in 1. and 2. but not in 3. (from other routes)

                Therefore my idea: I create a route as a template for a trip and add all POIs there that I want to visit and that are not included in 1. or 2. When I then plan individual routes, I do not create new routes but always copy the template.

                The way you described should work and the POIs in <Library> should be visible. Maybe you have to zoom in a bit more.

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                • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                  @Don-Stauffer
                  My understanding so far:

                  1. POI collections in <Search> are available for all users in all new (and existing) routes.

                  2. POIs in <Library> are also available in all routes, but only for the user who added the collection with upload.

                  3. POIs in <Manage>, on the other hand, are bound to exactly this route.

                  So when you create a new route, you can access the POIs in 1. and 2. but not in 3. (from other routes)

                  Therefore my idea: I create a route as a template for a trip and add all POIs there that I want to visit and that are not included in 1. or 2. When I then plan individual routes, I do not create new routes but always copy the template.

                  The way you described should work and the POIs in <Library> should be visible. Maybe you have to zoom in a bit more.

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                  Jack van Tilburg
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Martin-W
                  In general you are right.
                  Additional information can be found in this support article.
                  Manual POI's
                  I don't think my description to make your own POI list is included

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                  • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                    When I plan a motorbike trip, I first make a list of POIs that I (probably) want to visit.
                    In the second step, I plan individual routes in which I add the corresponding POIs as Viapoints. In the process, of course, I sometimes discover more POIs that I want to add to my list.

                    However, I cannot create a POI list within MRA Route Planner.

                    The only way I can think of is to plan a dummy route in which I collect the various POIs together. If a certain point is already included in an existing POI collection (either the lists included in MRA or one of my own uploaded list), I can add it as a POI to the route. I can then split or copy the dummy route into individual routes to plan my day trips.
                    If I want to add POIs that are not already in a collection, I have to create favourites instead - which I don't want to do because I use favourites for a different purpose.
                    All in all, it's not really a smooth way.

                    Alternatively, I could create my POI list with another app and then load it into MRA. That works fine - but of course I would like to do everything with MRA 🙂

                    Any ideas for a better workflow?

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                    Drabslab
                    wrote on last edited by Drabslab
                    #9

                    @Martin-W

                    I think that the whole POI/Favorites aspect in the routeplanner could use a serious update. And now that we have Next, the limitations of other GPS devices are less important.

                    In myview, POI and Favorites are largely the same.

                    Maybe I write a "suggestion" on this topic

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                    • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                      @Martin-W

                      I think that the whole POI/Favorites aspect in the routeplanner could use a serious update. And now that we have Next, the limitations of other GPS devices are less important.

                      In myview, POI and Favorites are largely the same.

                      Maybe I write a "suggestion" on this topic

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                      Martin Wilcke
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                      #10

                      @Drabslab said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                      In myview, POI and Favorites are largely the same.

                      This can lead to long and endless discussions 🙂

                      But I agree. If I had a way to manage "my own POIs" well, I would not need "favorites".

                      After all, the topic is already on the MRA Routeplanner roadmap. I am a new user, so my question is: Is there typically information available in advance about a planned new or changed feature, so that users can contribute their ideas?

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                      • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                        @Drabslab said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                        In myview, POI and Favorites are largely the same.

                        This can lead to long and endless discussions 🙂

                        But I agree. If I had a way to manage "my own POIs" well, I would not need "favorites".

                        After all, the topic is already on the MRA Routeplanner roadmap. I am a new user, so my question is: Is there typically information available in advance about a planned new or changed feature, so that users can contribute their ideas?

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                        Jack van Tilburg
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                        #11

                        @Martin-W said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                        my question is: Is there typically information available in advance about a planned new or changed feature, so that users can contribute their ideas?

                        You can take a look at the The road to MRA Routeplanner point 1.9

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                        • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                          @Martin-W
                          You can create your own POI list. It is laborious.
                          Open a new route - go to <Points of interest> in the left column and choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it. Repeat with all the POIs you want to create.
                          Then go to the menu at the top of the screen and choose <Save as>. There you will find the option for POI.
                          Then go to <Routlab> and choose <Upload> and in the next window "POI". Follow the clue.
                          Your POI list is now listed under the "Library" tab

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                          Nigel Ralphson
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                          @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                          Open a new route - go to <Points of interest> in the left column and choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it. Repeat with all the POIs you want to create.

                          Hi, this may sound stupid but I cant find <Points of interest> in the left column. In fact, I cant see a left column on my screen.

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                          • Nigel Ralphsonundefined Nigel Ralphson

                            @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                            Open a new route - go to <Points of interest> in the left column and choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it. Repeat with all the POIs you want to create.

                            Hi, this may sound stupid but I cant find <Points of interest> in the left column. In fact, I cant see a left column on my screen.

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                            @Nigel-Ralphson, click this arrow:
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                            I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                            I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

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                            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                              @Nigel-Ralphson, click this arrow:
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                              @Con-Hennekens Aaahhhh thank you!! Told you I was stupid!! 🙄

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                              • Nigel Ralphsonundefined Nigel Ralphson

                                @Con-Hennekens Aaahhhh thank you!! Told you I was stupid!! 🙄

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                                @Nigel-Ralphson said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                                @Con-Hennekens Aaahhhh thank you!! Told you I was stupid!! 🙄

                                No, you’re not stupid, a stupid person wouldn’t ask for help 😉

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                                • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                  @Nigel-Ralphson said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                                  @Con-Hennekens Aaahhhh thank you!! Told you I was stupid!! 🙄

                                  No, you’re not stupid, a stupid person wouldn’t ask for help 😉

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                                  @Nick-Carthew said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                                  a stupid person wouldn’t ask for help

                                  Exactly!

                                  @Nigel-Ralphson, I wish all questions were this easy to answer 😉

                                  I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                                  I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                                  • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                                    When I plan a motorbike trip, I first make a list of POIs that I (probably) want to visit.
                                    In the second step, I plan individual routes in which I add the corresponding POIs as Viapoints. In the process, of course, I sometimes discover more POIs that I want to add to my list.

                                    However, I cannot create a POI list within MRA Route Planner.

                                    The only way I can think of is to plan a dummy route in which I collect the various POIs together. If a certain point is already included in an existing POI collection (either the lists included in MRA or one of my own uploaded list), I can add it as a POI to the route. I can then split or copy the dummy route into individual routes to plan my day trips.
                                    If I want to add POIs that are not already in a collection, I have to create favourites instead - which I don't want to do because I use favourites for a different purpose.
                                    All in all, it's not really a smooth way.

                                    Alternatively, I could create my POI list with another app and then load it into MRA. That works fine - but of course I would like to do everything with MRA 🙂

                                    Any ideas for a better workflow?

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                                    @Martin-Wilcke I browsed the forum to see if others already suggested enabling a more natural way in MRA for planning multiday trips. You suggestion comes close to my wish:

                                    I create a new folder and would like it to contain the POI's and routes for a series of days. I first want to enter all overnight stays as POI's, so I can use them as endpoint for a day trip and use it again as a starting point the next day.
                                    A workaround is to define all trip POI's as Favourites but this means various multiday trips share alle POI's, unless you remove them from the list again afterwards.

                                    I read here that new POI functionality is coming. My suggestion is enable POI's for a series of routes to be put in a folder just like the routes itself.

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