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  • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

    @Don-Stauffer
    My understanding so far:

    1. POI collections in <Search> are available for all users in all new (and existing) routes.

    2. POIs in <Library> are also available in all routes, but only for the user who added the collection with upload.

    3. POIs in <Manage>, on the other hand, are bound to exactly this route.

    So when you create a new route, you can access the POIs in 1. and 2. but not in 3. (from other routes)

    Therefore my idea: I create a route as a template for a trip and add all POIs there that I want to visit and that are not included in 1. or 2. When I then plan individual routes, I do not create new routes but always copy the template.

    The way you described should work and the POIs in <Library> should be visible. Maybe you have to zoom in a bit more.

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    @Martin-W
    In general you are right.
    Additional information can be found in this support article.
    Manual POI's
    I don't think my description to make your own POI list is included

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    • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

      When I plan a motorbike trip, I first make a list of POIs that I (probably) want to visit.
      In the second step, I plan individual routes in which I add the corresponding POIs as Viapoints. In the process, of course, I sometimes discover more POIs that I want to add to my list.

      However, I cannot create a POI list within MRA Route Planner.

      The only way I can think of is to plan a dummy route in which I collect the various POIs together. If a certain point is already included in an existing POI collection (either the lists included in MRA or one of my own uploaded list), I can add it as a POI to the route. I can then split or copy the dummy route into individual routes to plan my day trips.
      If I want to add POIs that are not already in a collection, I have to create favourites instead - which I don't want to do because I use favourites for a different purpose.
      All in all, it's not really a smooth way.

      Alternatively, I could create my POI list with another app and then load it into MRA. That works fine - but of course I would like to do everything with MRA πŸ™‚

      Any ideas for a better workflow?

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      @Martin-W

      I think that the whole POI/Favorites aspect in the routeplanner could use a serious update. And now that we have Next, the limitations of other GPS devices are less important.

      In myview, POI and Favorites are largely the same.

      Maybe I write a "suggestion" on this topic

      It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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      • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

        @Martin-W

        I think that the whole POI/Favorites aspect in the routeplanner could use a serious update. And now that we have Next, the limitations of other GPS devices are less important.

        In myview, POI and Favorites are largely the same.

        Maybe I write a "suggestion" on this topic

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        @Drabslab said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

        In myview, POI and Favorites are largely the same.

        This can lead to long and endless discussions πŸ™‚

        But I agree. If I had a way to manage "my own POIs" well, I would not need "favorites".

        After all, the topic is already on the MRA Routeplanner roadmap. I am a new user, so my question is: Is there typically information available in advance about a planned new or changed feature, so that users can contribute their ideas?

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        • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

          @Drabslab said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

          In myview, POI and Favorites are largely the same.

          This can lead to long and endless discussions πŸ™‚

          But I agree. If I had a way to manage "my own POIs" well, I would not need "favorites".

          After all, the topic is already on the MRA Routeplanner roadmap. I am a new user, so my question is: Is there typically information available in advance about a planned new or changed feature, so that users can contribute their ideas?

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          Jack van Tilburg
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          @Martin-W said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

          my question is: Is there typically information available in advance about a planned new or changed feature, so that users can contribute their ideas?

          You can take a look at the The road to MRA Routeplanner point 1.9

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          • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

            @Martin-W
            You can create your own POI list. It is laborious.
            Open a new route - go to <Points of interest> in the left column and choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it. Repeat with all the POIs you want to create.
            Then go to the menu at the top of the screen and choose <Save as>. There you will find the option for POI.
            Then go to <Routlab> and choose <Upload> and in the next window "POI". Follow the clue.
            Your POI list is now listed under the "Library" tab

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            @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

            Open a new route - go to <Points of interest> in the left column and choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it. Repeat with all the POIs you want to create.

            Hi, this may sound stupid but I cant find <Points of interest> in the left column. In fact, I cant see a left column on my screen.

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            • Nigel Ralphsonundefined Nigel Ralphson

              @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

              Open a new route - go to <Points of interest> in the left column and choose the middle tab <Manage> - Click "Add" and place your POI, name it. Repeat with all the POIs you want to create.

              Hi, this may sound stupid but I cant find <Points of interest> in the left column. In fact, I cant see a left column on my screen.

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              @Nigel-Ralphson, click this arrow:
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              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @Nigel-Ralphson, click this arrow:
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                @Con-Hennekens Aaahhhh thank you!! Told you I was stupid!! πŸ™„

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                • Nigel Ralphsonundefined Nigel Ralphson

                  @Con-Hennekens Aaahhhh thank you!! Told you I was stupid!! πŸ™„

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                  @Nigel-Ralphson said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                  @Con-Hennekens Aaahhhh thank you!! Told you I was stupid!! πŸ™„

                  No, you’re not stupid, a stupid person wouldn’t ask for help πŸ˜‰

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                  • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                    @Nigel-Ralphson said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                    @Con-Hennekens Aaahhhh thank you!! Told you I was stupid!! πŸ™„

                    No, you’re not stupid, a stupid person wouldn’t ask for help πŸ˜‰

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                    @Nick-Carthew said in Creating POI lists with MRA:

                    a stupid person wouldn’t ask for help

                    Exactly!

                    @Nigel-Ralphson, I wish all questions were this easy to answer πŸ˜‰

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                      When I plan a motorbike trip, I first make a list of POIs that I (probably) want to visit.
                      In the second step, I plan individual routes in which I add the corresponding POIs as Viapoints. In the process, of course, I sometimes discover more POIs that I want to add to my list.

                      However, I cannot create a POI list within MRA Route Planner.

                      The only way I can think of is to plan a dummy route in which I collect the various POIs together. If a certain point is already included in an existing POI collection (either the lists included in MRA or one of my own uploaded list), I can add it as a POI to the route. I can then split or copy the dummy route into individual routes to plan my day trips.
                      If I want to add POIs that are not already in a collection, I have to create favourites instead - which I don't want to do because I use favourites for a different purpose.
                      All in all, it's not really a smooth way.

                      Alternatively, I could create my POI list with another app and then load it into MRA. That works fine - but of course I would like to do everything with MRA πŸ™‚

                      Any ideas for a better workflow?

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                      @Martin-Wilcke I browsed the forum to see if others already suggested enabling a more natural way in MRA for planning multiday trips. You suggestion comes close to my wish:

                      I create a new folder and would like it to contain the POI's and routes for a series of days. I first want to enter all overnight stays as POI's, so I can use them as endpoint for a day trip and use it again as a starting point the next day.
                      A workaround is to define all trip POI's as Favourites but this means various multiday trips share alle POI's, unless you remove them from the list again afterwards.

                      I read here that new POI functionality is coming. My suggestion is enable POI's for a series of routes to be put in a folder just like the routes itself.

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