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Suggestion: Recalculation and alternative route

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  • Tim  Thompsonundefined Offline
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    Tim Thompson
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    I'll second that...

    The idea I guess might be similar to what's shown here in Scenic...

    Scenic Road Block Option

    He spends some time dealing with the scenario, that after the detour, Scenic tries to force him to navigate to a couple of shaping points that he no longer wants to go to because of the detour. Seems that MRA could handle that easily by just using the Skip function after you setup the detour.

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    • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

      -In- en uitschakelbare functie voor automatisch herberekenen van de route.
      -Mogelijkheid om bij een obstakel in de route een alternatieve routedeel te berekenen. Liefst met een keuze ten aanzien van de lengte van het alteratief.

      -Switchable automatic route recalculation function.
      -Possibility to calculate an alternative route section in the event of an obstacle in the route. Preferably with a choice regarding the length of the alternative.

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      Rob Verhoeff
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      @Jack-van-Tilburg Helemaal voor. Ik heb hem hier in een ander topic ook al voorbij zien komen en hoop dat deze het haalt!

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      • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

        -In- en uitschakelbare functie voor automatisch herberekenen van de route.
        -Mogelijkheid om bij een obstakel in de route een alternatieve routedeel te berekenen. Liefst met een keuze ten aanzien van de lengte van het alteratief.

        -Switchable automatic route recalculation function.
        -Possibility to calculate an alternative route section in the event of an obstacle in the route. Preferably with a choice regarding the length of the alternative.

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        @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Suggestion: Recalculation and alternative route:

        -In- en uitschakelbare functie voor automatisch herberekenen van de route.

        Ik ben het helemaal met je eens. Voor mij is het een essentiële optie bij het volgen van een zorgvuldig voorbereide route op MRA. In mijn ervaring met MRA Navigatie en andere GPS-systemen zoals TomTom, heb ik me vaak geërgerd omdat de herberekening niet efficiënt is. Ik kies het liefst zelf het pad om aan te sluiten bij mijn initiële route.

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        • MyRoute-app communityundefined Offline
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          Thank you for the suggestion @Jack-van-Tilburg . We want to make sure that this behavior matches the expectations of our members as closely as possible.

          Are you aware of any apps that do this really well? We could then research their UX design choices and improve on them with our own ideas.

          @Tim-Thompson thanks for the tip!

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          • MyRoute-app communityundefined MyRoute-app community

            Thank you for the suggestion @Jack-van-Tilburg . We want to make sure that this behavior matches the expectations of our members as closely as possible.

            Are you aware of any apps that do this really well? We could then research their UX design choices and improve on them with our own ideas.

            @Tim-Thompson thanks for the tip!

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            Jack van Tilburg
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            @Timo-Martosatiman-MRA
            Nowadays I have a BMW ('21) with TFT screen and the BMW Connected App. (TomTom with BMW shell).
            For this I had the BMW Nav V and VI (Garmin and also with BMW shell).
            I think the function for an alternative route, with choice for the distance, was there.
            I remember it working fine but can't reproduce it anymore.

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            • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

              -In- en uitschakelbare functie voor automatisch herberekenen van de route.
              -Mogelijkheid om bij een obstakel in de route een alternatieve routedeel te berekenen. Liefst met een keuze ten aanzien van de lengte van het alteratief.

              -Switchable automatic route recalculation function.
              -Possibility to calculate an alternative route section in the event of an obstacle in the route. Preferably with a choice regarding the length of the alternative.

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              Kudee
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              @Jack-van-Tilburg I would Love this function! Like on the Garmin. Turn off auto recalculation. with a sign when you left the route

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                Watching the Scenic video above clearly shows that it is not fit for the purpose regarding Via Points in this instance.

                Jack’s suggestion regarding the length of the alternate route seems a sensible option.

                Personally I would generally just zoom the Map out to see the surrounding roads and memorise a way around the blockage.

                You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

                  Watching the Scenic video above clearly shows that it is not fit for the purpose regarding Via Points in this instance.

                  Jack’s suggestion regarding the length of the alternate route seems a sensible option.

                  Personally I would generally just zoom the Map out to see the surrounding roads and memorise a way around the blockage.

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                  Tim Thompson
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                  @Steve-Lynch said in Suggestion: Recalculation and alternative route:

                  Watching the Scenic video above clearly shows that it is not fit for the purpose regarding Via Points in this instance.

                  How so? He shows two methods for dealing with shaping points he no longer wants to go through due to the detour. The first method is a bit clunky. However, the second method with Via Point Pro Mode (vias being analogous to shaping points in MRA world) enabled seems quite fit for purpose/functional. How would you suggest it should work differently?

                  An option similar to the Via Point Pro Mode in Scenic is a feature that MRA Navigation or Next should have. I've already made a request for functionality that allows hiding or showing shaping points from display etc.

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                  • Tim  Thompsonundefined Tim Thompson

                    @Steve-Lynch said in Suggestion: Recalculation and alternative route:

                    Watching the Scenic video above clearly shows that it is not fit for the purpose regarding Via Points in this instance.

                    How so? He shows two methods for dealing with shaping points he no longer wants to go through due to the detour. The first method is a bit clunky. However, the second method with Via Point Pro Mode (vias being analogous to shaping points in MRA world) enabled seems quite fit for purpose/functional. How would you suggest it should work differently?

                    An option similar to the Via Point Pro Mode in Scenic is a feature that MRA Navigation or Next should have. I've already made a request for functionality that allows hiding or showing shaping points from display etc.

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                    @Tim-Thompson

                    I never add Via Points to any of my routes.
                    I do use the colours sometimes i.e. Red as stops but I have the option of passing through them if I choose to.
                    99% of the time I prefer to travel alone and I stop when I'm hungry, thirsty, want to take in the scenery or just stretch my legs.
                    Nothing in the way I do things using using Shaping Points and GPX 1.1 impedes your ability to do things the way you want to.
                    And I am happy to continue manually finding a way round roadblocks until such a time as as the algorithm is 100% perfect.

                    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                    • Jack van Tilburgundefined Offline
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                      I understand you @Steve-Lynch
                      I often enjoy driving around freely.
                      But a large proportion of users want to make optimal use of digital forms of support. This is especially evident from many questions here on the forum.

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                      • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                        I understand you @Steve-Lynch
                        I often enjoy driving around freely.
                        But a large proportion of users want to make optimal use of digital forms of support. This is especially evident from many questions here on the forum.

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                        Steve Lynch
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                        #12

                        @Jack-van-Tilburg
                        Same answer Jack,
                        Nothing I am doing affects anyone elses ability to use all functionality they want when Next is up and running.

                        I agree with your suggestions above where you indicate that blockages should be managed by distance rather than skipping Via or Shaping Points.

                        "-Possibility to calculate an alternative route section in the event of an obstacle in the route. Preferably with a choice regarding the length of the alternative."

                        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

                          @Jack-van-Tilburg
                          Same answer Jack,
                          Nothing I am doing affects anyone elses ability to use all functionality they want when Next is up and running.

                          I agree with your suggestions above where you indicate that blockages should be managed by distance rather than skipping Via or Shaping Points.

                          "-Possibility to calculate an alternative route section in the event of an obstacle in the route. Preferably with a choice regarding the length of the alternative."

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                          @Steve-Lynch , An addition to this topic might be the suggestion to show the original route (perhaps in a different color), so when you need to take a detour because of a road block, you can see how to get back to the original route. Garmin BMW shows this.

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