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    Drabslab
    wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 12:31 last edited by
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    I cheer for every MRA update, although i sometimes hate how they do that ๐Ÿ˜œ

    And just like all other users i have a ling list of unavailable features that i would like to see introduced ... but overall i am happy with the support that the routeplanner does give me.

    And then, somecomments on this forum seem to suggest that any small shortcoming in the software, or the route, or the track is a life tgreathening situation capable of completely ruining a trip???
    Hence, my question: shoul we be more capable of accepting some errors, and more capable of driving around considering mra as a welcome aid rather than as a nessential tool which potential failure ruins the trip?

    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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    • undefined Drabslab
      25 Aug 2022, 12:31

      I cheer for every MRA update, although i sometimes hate how they do that ๐Ÿ˜œ

      And just like all other users i have a ling list of unavailable features that i would like to see introduced ... but overall i am happy with the support that the routeplanner does give me.

      And then, somecomments on this forum seem to suggest that any small shortcoming in the software, or the route, or the track is a life tgreathening situation capable of completely ruining a trip???
      Hence, my question: shoul we be more capable of accepting some errors, and more capable of driving around considering mra as a welcome aid rather than as a nessential tool which potential failure ruins the trip?

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      Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
      Instructor RouteXperts
      wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 12:51 last edited by
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      @Drabslab
      Hi @Drabslab,

      MRA hasn't ruined a route I made with the MRA planner yet, so plan the route carefully (isn't that necessary with every planning program?). Of course there are still wishes, and these are also listened to.
      As soon as MRA Mobile is ready, the emphasis will be on MRA Navigation and in case of "real" bugs in the planner, MRA will of course give priority to that.

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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        25 Aug 2022, 12:31

        I cheer for every MRA update, although i sometimes hate how they do that ๐Ÿ˜œ

        And just like all other users i have a ling list of unavailable features that i would like to see introduced ... but overall i am happy with the support that the routeplanner does give me.

        And then, somecomments on this forum seem to suggest that any small shortcoming in the software, or the route, or the track is a life tgreathening situation capable of completely ruining a trip???
        Hence, my question: shoul we be more capable of accepting some errors, and more capable of driving around considering mra as a welcome aid rather than as a nessential tool which potential failure ruins the trip?

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        Steve Lynch
        wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 15:08 last edited by
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        @Drabslab

        I too am very happy with the Route Planner functionality as it stands now knowing that further improvements will come in the future.
        When I switched from the Tom Tom Rider 550 to the Garmin XT (Itโ€™s easier on my ageing eyes)it was Hans that walked me tirelessly through the transition.
        The XT has never failed me once since that time.
        On the odd occasion I have missed a road closure at the planning stage or a chance incident occurs I am able to navigate to my next Shaping Point (I never add Via Points).
        This is why I always have my Shaping Points visible on the XT Map.

        I also really like MyRoute-App Mobile for its seamless transfers to my Garmin XT.

        You donโ€™t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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          25 Aug 2022, 15:08

          @Drabslab

          I too am very happy with the Route Planner functionality as it stands now knowing that further improvements will come in the future.
          When I switched from the Tom Tom Rider 550 to the Garmin XT (Itโ€™s easier on my ageing eyes)it was Hans that walked me tirelessly through the transition.
          The XT has never failed me once since that time.
          On the odd occasion I have missed a road closure at the planning stage or a chance incident occurs I am able to navigate to my next Shaping Point (I never add Via Points).
          This is why I always have my Shaping Points visible on the XT Map.

          I also really like MyRoute-App Mobile for its seamless transfers to my Garmin XT.

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          Corjan Meijerink
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          wrote on 25 Aug 2022, 16:30 last edited by
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          @Steve-Lynch Happy to hear that works seamless with MyRoute-app Mobile!

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            Rob Wilkie
            wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 09:18 last edited by
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            Sat Navs and route planning software are AIDS TO NAVIGATION. Some people seem to turn off the "Common Sense Feature" in their brains and rely completely on the tool. That is the danger - not some minor error in the nav!

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              26 Aug 2022, 09:18

              Sat Navs and route planning software are AIDS TO NAVIGATION. Some people seem to turn off the "Common Sense Feature" in their brains and rely completely on the tool. That is the danger - not some minor error in the nav!

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              Nick Carthew
              RouteXperts Instructor
              wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 09:29 last edited by
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              @Rob-Wilkie said in Are we wanting too much??:

              Sat Navs and route planning software are AIDS TO NAVIGATION. Some people seem to turn off the "Common Sense Feature" in their brains and rely completely on the tool. That is the danger - not some minor error in the nav!

              I couldnโ€™t agree more with your statement ๐Ÿ‘

              Also, there are many users of route planning software and navigation devices that are too quick to blame the equipment because they donโ€™t fully understand how it works.

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                stuart marritt
                wrote on 27 Aug 2022, 21:10 last edited by
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                The only thing thats messed up a route here is the operator!

                Lack of knowledge on using the programs and navigation device is usually a recipe for disaster!

                I have had my ups and downs but I have learnt how to use MRA and how my garmin zumo reacts to that route too

                As they say practice makes perfect! I now go out my way to purposefully break a route to see how things react etc its the only way of how to learn how things work

                Not once have I blamed MRA it does what I tell it too

                The Zumo on the other hand I am losing my patience with that thing has a mind of its own

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                  27 Aug 2022, 21:10

                  The only thing thats messed up a route here is the operator!

                  Lack of knowledge on using the programs and navigation device is usually a recipe for disaster!

                  I have had my ups and downs but I have learnt how to use MRA and how my garmin zumo reacts to that route too

                  As they say practice makes perfect! I now go out my way to purposefully break a route to see how things react etc its the only way of how to learn how things work

                  Not once have I blamed MRA it does what I tell it too

                  The Zumo on the other hand I am losing my patience with that thing has a mind of its own

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                  Steve Lynch
                  wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 19:07 last edited by
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                  @stuart-marritt

                  In my experience with the Zumo XT most unwanted recalculations on the XT are caused by not having enough Shaping Points in your Route.

                  You donโ€™t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                    28 Aug 2022, 19:07

                    @stuart-marritt

                    In my experience with the Zumo XT most unwanted recalculations on the XT are caused by not having enough Shaping Points in your Route.

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                    stuart marritt
                    wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 19:16 last edited by
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                    @Steve-Lynch said in Are we wanting too much??:

                    @stuart-marritt

                    In my experience with the Zumo XT most unwanted recalculations on the XT are caused by not having enough Shaping Points in your Route.

                    In my experience its by not going the way that the zumo is telling you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

                    Usually as you may know a better route or you have veered off for a stop like fuel or something

                    The Zumo itself has a mind of its own when it comes to recalculations and for that reason I leave recalculations to prompted

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                      29 Aug 2022, 19:16

                      @Steve-Lynch said in Are we wanting too much??:

                      @stuart-marritt

                      In my experience with the Zumo XT most unwanted recalculations on the XT are caused by not having enough Shaping Points in your Route.

                      In my experience its by not going the way that the zumo is telling you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

                      Usually as you may know a better route or you have veered off for a stop like fuel or something

                      The Zumo itself has a mind of its own when it comes to recalculations and for that reason I leave recalculations to prompted

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                      Steve Lynch
                      wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 19:56 last edited by Steve Lynch
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                      @stuart-marritt

                      For me the Zumo XT will never recalculate for me as I place at least 1 Shaping Point on every road I want to travel on.
                      Yes its a lot of extra work but I like to travel on the Country Lanes with the grass in the middle.

                      You donโ€™t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        29 Aug 2022, 19:56

                        @stuart-marritt

                        For me the Zumo XT will never recalculate for me as I place at least 1 Shaping Point on every road I want to travel on.
                        Yes its a lot of extra work but I like to travel on the Country Lanes with the grass in the middle.

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                        stuart marritt
                        wrote on 1 Sept 2022, 22:13 last edited by
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                        @Steve-Lynch said in Are we wanting too much??:

                        @stuart-marritt

                        For me the Zumo XT will never recalculate for me as I place at least 1 Shaping Point on every road I want to travel on.
                        Yes its a lot of extra work but I like to travel on the Country Lanes with the grass in the middle.

                        But thats the thing you wont get unwanted recalculations as you have enough shaping points etc

                        Schoolboy errors are what we are all learning from and what others will still be doing and not putting enough shaping points in

                        And if you don't put enough in and take a turn off route and it recalculates then you could end up with a totally different route. I have also had it ignore shaping points and go straight to the end of the route or start from the beginning

                        I use plenty of shaping points and also a few Via/waypoints as Via/Waypoints can't be ignored where as the zumo can ignore shaping points

                        My solution is to have plenty of both and turn off route recalculation on to prompt That way you can go off route if need be and be able to join back up on your own accord without messing the route

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