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  • undefined sudolea
    24 May 2022, 11:53

    @jack-van-tilburg said in New MRA Mobile app:

    @sudolea said in New MRA Mobile app:

    Is it ? Sure ? The topic's title reads "New MRA Mobile App", and you state that it's about MRA Planner ?

    Yes I am sure.
    I just didn't know that I had to use the term "mobile" again for clarity.
    As you say yourself:

    The topic's title reads "New MRA Mobile App".

    You just proved my point 🤒 😡

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    Klaus r
    wrote on 25 May 2022, 12:36 last edited by
    #8

    @sudolea
    Yes, the names of the MRA products are getting more and more confusing.
    "Navigation Next"? And what will come after ... Next?

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    • undefined Klaus r
      25 May 2022, 12:36

      @sudolea
      Yes, the names of the MRA products are getting more and more confusing.
      "Navigation Next"? And what will come after ... Next?

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      Con Hennekens
      Alpha tester
      wrote on 25 May 2022, 14:31 last edited by Con Hennekens
      #9

      There really is not as much confusion as it seems. Why would anyone think an app that DOES NOT carry Navigation in the name has anything to do with navigation, While MRA Navigation always has been the navigation app? There has always been MRA (as short for myroute-app) as a route planner in two versions. One for the web and one for mobile use. It's really not that hard.

      And that Next comes after the first is also no brainbreaker. What comes after Next is a surprise for now 😉 and not really a concern.

      I think it's the people calling everything MRA (while it is not) are causing there own confusion.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        Inge Bakermans
        wrote on 26 May 2022, 06:26 last edited by
        #10

        Wish we really would get clear names on what is what - now I cannot make heads or tails out of it anymore.

        Why not just use the word "app" to only Android & Apple related?

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        • undefined Inge Bakermans
          26 May 2022, 06:26

          Wish we really would get clear names on what is what - now I cannot make heads or tails out of it anymore.

          Why not just use the word "app" to only Android & Apple related?

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          Nick Carthew
          RouteXpert
          wrote on 26 May 2022, 09:58 last edited by
          #11

          @inge-bakermans said in New MRA Mobile app:

          Wish we really would get clear names on what is what - now I cannot make heads or tails out of it anymore.

          Why not just use the word "app" to only Android & Apple related?

          The preferred reference to MyRoute-app is now MRA
          MRA RoutePlanner
          MRA Mobile app
          MRA Navigation app

          It's not that difficult!

          Always willing to help if I can.
          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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          • undefined Nick Carthew
            26 May 2022, 09:58

            @inge-bakermans said in New MRA Mobile app:

            Wish we really would get clear names on what is what - now I cannot make heads or tails out of it anymore.

            Why not just use the word "app" to only Android & Apple related?

            The preferred reference to MyRoute-app is now MRA
            MRA RoutePlanner
            MRA Mobile app
            MRA Navigation app

            It's not that difficult!

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            Inge Bakermans
            wrote on 26 May 2022, 12:19 last edited by
            #12

            @nick-carthew Nick, thanks for clarifying that. Though it seems to me that word "app" gets used way too often even when it should not be. that to make gets out the confusion. If everyone simply followed that proper names confusion would be way less.

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            • undefined Inge Bakermans
              26 May 2022, 12:19

              @nick-carthew Nick, thanks for clarifying that. Though it seems to me that word "app" gets used way too often even when it should not be. that to make gets out the confusion. If everyone simply followed that proper names confusion would be way less.

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              Jack van Tilburg
              wrote on 26 May 2022, 13:11 last edited by
              #13

              @inge-bakermans

              You are right and to avoid confusion I will certainly try not to use any terms other than those mentioned above.

              But the designation APP is not specifically intended for applications for mobile devices (or web-based applications).
              APP is an abbreviated form of the word "application."

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              • undefined Nick Carthew
                26 May 2022, 09:58

                @inge-bakermans said in New MRA Mobile app:

                Wish we really would get clear names on what is what - now I cannot make heads or tails out of it anymore.

                Why not just use the word "app" to only Android & Apple related?

                The preferred reference to MyRoute-app is now MRA
                MRA RoutePlanner
                MRA Mobile app
                MRA Navigation app

                It's not that difficult!

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                sudolea
                wrote on 29 May 2022, 16:18 last edited by
                #14

                @con-hennekens said in New MRA Mobile app:

                There really is not as much confusion as it seems. Why would anyone think an app that DOES NOT carry Navigation in the name has anything to do with navigation, While MRA Navigation always has been the navigation app?

                So if I understand you correctly, MRA Navigation, not carrying any reference to "mobile", is not a mobile app ?

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                  sudolea
                  wrote on 29 May 2022, 16:19 last edited by
                  #15

                  @con-hennekens said in New MRA Mobile app:

                  ...
                  I think it's the people calling everything MRA (while it is not) are causing there own confusion.

                  Then you might be in the ideal position to get a lot of people out of their confusion with what follows below...

                  @nick-carthew said in New MRA Mobile app:

                  The preferred reference to MyRoute-app is now MRA
                  MRA RoutePlanner
                  MRA Mobile app
                  MRA Navigation app

                  It's not that difficult!

                  I guess what's now to be called "MRA RoutePlanner" used to be called MyRoute-app before, or isn't this correct ?

                  Supposing it is (correct), then why does my browser still calls it MyRoute-app ? See screenshot below, taken from my current edit screen.

                  30219bf8-fbc4-46ba-a47a-32673152649b-afbeelding.png

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                  • undefined Jack van Tilburg
                    26 May 2022, 13:11

                    @inge-bakermans

                    You are right and to avoid confusion I will certainly try not to use any terms other than those mentioned above.

                    But the designation APP is not specifically intended for applications for mobile devices (or web-based applications).
                    APP is an abbreviated form of the word "application."

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                    Drabslab
                    wrote on 29 May 2022, 19:18 last edited by
                    #16

                    @jack-van-tilburg that will not work Jack. Remember we had via points and shaping points. Now they start to use the tetm training points onstead. What i mean is, soon the new convention Nick is promoting will not be newenough and some other naming will come.

                    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                    • undefined sudolea
                      29 May 2022, 16:18

                      @con-hennekens said in New MRA Mobile app:

                      There really is not as much confusion as it seems. Why would anyone think an app that DOES NOT carry Navigation in the name has anything to do with navigation, While MRA Navigation always has been the navigation app?

                      So if I understand you correctly, MRA Navigation, not carrying any reference to "mobile", is not a mobile app ?

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                      Con Hennekens
                      Alpha tester
                      wrote on 30 May 2022, 08:45 last edited by
                      #17

                      @sudolea said in New MRA Mobile app:

                      So if I understand you correctly, MRA Navigation, not carrying any reference to "mobile", is not a mobile app ?

                      You are welcome to install it on your windows PC 😉

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • undefined sudolea
                        29 May 2022, 16:19

                        @con-hennekens said in New MRA Mobile app:

                        ...
                        I think it's the people calling everything MRA (while it is not) are causing there own confusion.

                        Then you might be in the ideal position to get a lot of people out of their confusion with what follows below...

                        @nick-carthew said in New MRA Mobile app:

                        The preferred reference to MyRoute-app is now MRA
                        MRA RoutePlanner
                        MRA Mobile app
                        MRA Navigation app

                        It's not that difficult!

                        I guess what's now to be called "MRA RoutePlanner" used to be called MyRoute-app before, or isn't this correct ?

                        Supposing it is (correct), then why does my browser still calls it MyRoute-app ? See screenshot below, taken from my current edit screen.

                        30219bf8-fbc4-46ba-a47a-32673152649b-afbeelding.png

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                        Con Hennekens
                        Alpha tester
                        wrote on 30 May 2022, 08:52 last edited by
                        #18

                        @sudolea said in New MRA Mobile app:

                        I think it's the people calling everything MRA (while it is not) are causing there own confusion.

                        Then you might be in the ideal position to get a lot of people out of their confusion with what follows below...

                        @nick-carthew said in New MRA Mobile app:

                        The preferred reference to MyRoute-app is now MRA
                        MRA RoutePlanner
                        MRA Mobile app
                        MRA Navigation app

                        None of the apps are called MRA (and nothing more) as far as I see...
                        But If I may give MRA (the company...) a suggestion: To link the route planners on different platforms together, it would perhaps be better to call "MRA Mobile app" "MRA Mobile Planner". Especialla since "App" already is in the MRA shortage. But now I am probably adding to he confusion 😁

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        • undefined Con Hennekens
                          30 May 2022, 08:52

                          @sudolea said in New MRA Mobile app:

                          I think it's the people calling everything MRA (while it is not) are causing there own confusion.

                          Then you might be in the ideal position to get a lot of people out of their confusion with what follows below...

                          @nick-carthew said in New MRA Mobile app:

                          The preferred reference to MyRoute-app is now MRA
                          MRA RoutePlanner
                          MRA Mobile app
                          MRA Navigation app

                          None of the apps are called MRA (and nothing more) as far as I see...
                          But If I may give MRA (the company...) a suggestion: To link the route planners on different platforms together, it would perhaps be better to call "MRA Mobile app" "MRA Mobile Planner". Especialla since "App" already is in the MRA shortage. But now I am probably adding to he confusion 😁

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                          Herko ter Horst
                          wrote on 30 May 2022, 08:55 last edited by
                          #19

                          @con-hennekens With the latest update, there is no more 'planning' functionality in the mobile app, so calling it 'mobile planner', would not just be confusing, it would be misleading.

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                          • undefined Herko ter Horst
                            30 May 2022, 08:55

                            @con-hennekens With the latest update, there is no more 'planning' functionality in the mobile app, so calling it 'mobile planner', would not just be confusing, it would be misleading.

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                            Con Hennekens
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on 30 May 2022, 09:09 last edited by
                            #20

                            @herko-ter-horst said in New MRA Mobile app:

                            @con-hennekens With the latest update, there is no more 'planning' functionality in the mobile app, so calling it 'mobile planner', would not just be confusing, it would be misleading.

                            Yeah, that's true, but there are a lot of disappointed comments about that too. Instead of an update to the planner that makes it no planner anymore, they would better have it made into a separate MRA Tracking App or something... I have to admit that a lot of decisions in the MRA development are rather erratic.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • undefined Con Hennekens
                              30 May 2022, 09:09

                              @herko-ter-horst said in New MRA Mobile app:

                              @con-hennekens With the latest update, there is no more 'planning' functionality in the mobile app, so calling it 'mobile planner', would not just be confusing, it would be misleading.

                              Yeah, that's true, but there are a lot of disappointed comments about that too. Instead of an update to the planner that makes it no planner anymore, they would better have it made into a separate MRA Tracking App or something... I have to admit that a lot of decisions in the MRA development are rather erratic.

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                              Herko ter Horst
                              wrote on 30 May 2022, 09:42 last edited by
                              #21

                              @con-hennekens I think the planning functionality is covered by the website "MRA Routeplanner" which works fine on mobile devices as well, so I can see the benefit for MRA going forward, not having to maintain that functionality for the Mobile app. I believe the functionality to export routes to other apps/devices will/should be restored to the MRA Mobile app, however.

                              Personally, I have barely used the Mobile app for either purpose (planning maybe once or twice, sharing with other apps/devices once) in the past and I've never used it to track a route or add photos, so I've deleted it from my phone for now. I'll just use the website (99,9% on PC, 0,1% on mobile I expect).

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                              • undefined Herko ter Horst
                                30 May 2022, 09:42

                                @con-hennekens I think the planning functionality is covered by the website "MRA Routeplanner" which works fine on mobile devices as well, so I can see the benefit for MRA going forward, not having to maintain that functionality for the Mobile app. I believe the functionality to export routes to other apps/devices will/should be restored to the MRA Mobile app, however.

                                Personally, I have barely used the Mobile app for either purpose (planning maybe once or twice, sharing with other apps/devices once) in the past and I've never used it to track a route or add photos, so I've deleted it from my phone for now. I'll just use the website (99,9% on PC, 0,1% on mobile I expect).

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                                Con Hennekens
                                Alpha tester
                                wrote on 30 May 2022, 11:35 last edited by
                                #22

                                @herko-ter-horst, I agree, and like you I rarely use the app indeed. The most meaningful function is likely the roundtrip generator, that would better have been integrated in the navigation app anyway. On the other side, how hard can it be for the mobile app to show the MRA website in an embedded window inside the app? That would be a nicer solution then to tell users to use the browser. But I am probably overlooking some plausible reasons.

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  wrote on 30 May 2022, 12:45 last edited by
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                                  Hi everyone! Thank you for your feedback.

                                  I've made a new thread under announcements where I let some of you know that we're pushing an update right now that should resolve almost every concern everyone has had so far.

                                  kind regards,

                                  Timo

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