Problem with announcing via points

[Gerard van der Veer]

Unfortunately, I can’t get the via points in a route to be spoken aloud. As far as I know, this should be possible, and I believe you can even set it so that an announcement is made at a certain distance before reaching the via point. However, when I enter text in the “Rename” field or in the “Note” field, it is not spoken.

In the settings, the audio delay is set to 0.2 and the route point notifications are set to “Via,” so that doesn’t seem to be the issue. I suspect I’m overlooking something, but no matter what I try, I can’t get it to work.

Could someone please explain in a clear, step-by-step way how to set this up correctly?

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@Gerard-van-der-Veer hi Gerard
Can you share a screenshot from your audio settings do we can see what its like on your device

[Guzzist]

@Gerard-van-der-Veer do you have special characters, or numbers in the text of your via points; may in the beginning of the text?

If you have set in properties, the option to name an enterd waypoint (route point) automatically - MRA enters to postal address (incl. street and number) into the name field. I believe, this will not be announced later, during navigation...

[Nick Carthew]

Shaping points (teardrop) and via points (hand) will display and announce their titles and notes at different distances.
Shaping points will display and read aloud their information at 750 metres before their position, via points display and read aloud their information at 2000 metres.
But only if there are no other route points within those distances.
In my example, the information in via point 4 will not begin until passing route point 3 as the distance is under 2000 kilometres and it is a via point.
The information for shaping point 5 will begin when you are 750 metres from it as there are no other route points within 750 metres.
The scale in the bottom left corner of the map will give you an approximate idea of distances.

[Gerard van der Veer]

Great! This is clear information — Thanks!

So if I understand correctly: I only want information at via points, and I want that information to be announced later than 2000 meters before the via point. So in that case, I need to place a shaping point within those 2000 meters before the via point.

Is that correct?

And where is the best place to put that information: under “Rename,” under “Note,” or both?

[Nick Carthew]

@Gerard-van-der-Veer said in Problem with announcing via points:

Great! This is clear information — Thanks!

So if I understand correctly: I only want information at via points, and I want that information to be announced later than 2000 meters before the via point. So in that case, I need to place a shaping point within those 2000 meters before the via point.

Is that correct?

And where is the best place to put that information: under “Rename,” under “Note,” or both?

Correct.

You can use both. Example: Fuel stop in the name and Fill your tank and buy some food from the BP service station. as the note.

[Gerard van der Veer]

Thanks Nick!

Very clear!

Thanks again!

[Gerard van der Veer]

I tested it and noticed the following: when I place a shaping point, for example 500 meters before a via point, I would expect to hear the information about that via point only at that moment. However, I am already hearing the information at a distance of 2000 meters.

I have tried this with several different routes, and it does not seem to make any difference whether there is a shaping point before the via point or not. The announcement always starts at 2000 meters.

What could be causing this?

[Brian McG]

Hi @Gerard-van-der-Veer this post has some useful info on when announcements are made
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/7504/text-to-speech-function-questions?_=1771278098552

[Nick Carthew]

@Gerard-van-der-Veer Your original problem was that you could not hear the announcements, now you can - problem solved

[Gerard van der Veer]

Hi Nick, totally agree — really great!
But I’m now wondering how it’s possible that I already hear the information at 2000 meters, even though I set a shaping point about 1000 meters before the via point.

[Nick Carthew]

@Gerard-van-der-Veer Yep, that’s a strange one. I must admit that it has been some time since I used this feature, and I do try to plan my routes accordingly, so it may have changed now. @Con-Hennekens is more up to date, he may be able to answer or offer a solution.

[Gerard van der Veer]

Okay Rick, thanks again so much. Maybe others know how this exactly works.
Talk to you sometime!

[Con Hennekens]

@Nick-Carthew said in Problem with announcing via points:

@Con-Hennekens is more up to date

Well I am not so certain of that

@Gerard-van-der-Veer, Are you saying that you hear the name and/or note of a via point at 2000 mtrs, while there still is a shaping point in between at 500 mtrs? It is my understanding that audible notes should wait until they are next in line. That is, in a route navigated as route. It might be different (it likely is) for routes navigated as track. There is a technical reason for this assumption, but that is beyond the scope here. So my question to you is: do you have "navigate route as track enabled" by any chance, or are you navigating a route planned on a map other than here (those are navigated as track by default, even without the feature enabled).

[Gerard van der Veer]

Hi Con-Hennekens, thanks for thinking along with us.

I simply navigate using the Here map and select navigation as a route, not as a track. I created a test route with two via points and placed a shaping point at different distances before each via point. In all cases, I already received the via point information at 2000 meters. Strange.., very strange..

[Marinus van Deudekom]

I wiil perform a test today and report back

[Marinus van Deudekom]

Just did the test drive
Made a ROUTE and followed it. It contained 3 viapoints and 5 shapingpoints, start, in between and end.
The viapoint in the middle was announced accoring to the plan aprox. 2 km in advance.
I put 2 shapingpoint less than 2 km before the end viapoint.
At 2 km before the end, nothing was announced
at the last shapingpoint before the end viapoint aprox 600 meter before the end viapoint the end Viapoint was announced.
Maybe @Gerard-van-der-Veer did not change the text in the Viapoints that he used and therefore nothing was announced. It is mandatory that you change the text of a viapoint into something else nothing using numbers in it.
During my test everything when according the plan so no problems there
Have fun

[Gerard van der Veer]

I did some experimenting myself and went through all the settings again. I must have changed something along the way, because it’s working now!

I suspect — though I’m not completely sure — that the slider for “Use all route points” was set to the left. The strange thing is that this slider shows “Off” in both the left and right positions. I’m not entirely sure what its exact function is or whether it’s actually relevant in this case, but when riding a route now I can see the shaping points, which I couldn’t see before.

Long story short: I don’t know exactly what was wrong, but it’s working now.

Thanks again everyone for the tremendous help and for thinking along with me!

[Con Hennekens]

@Gerard-van-der-Veer, I will repeat my earlier question: do you have "navigate route as track enabled" by any chance? (check at: Account-icon top right - Navigation settings (nearly at bottom) - Functional - Navigate routes as tracks (almost at bottom). Is that enabled or disabled?

[Con Hennekens]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom, great test thanks. It would be interesting to repeat that test with "Navigate route as track" enabled. I suspect that in that case the outcome is like @Gerard-van-der-Veer experiences.