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    Converted_
    wrote on 2 Jan 2025, 16:15 last edited by
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    I was trying to plan a rout with my motorbike through the german als including some specific points. I was looking for specific locations that can be reached with the motorbike, taking into account the the navigation is not considering seasonal blockings. I was trying to drive from Schlipfhalden via Fuchsalm (Stop point) to Gschwend. I was trying different methods (TomTom/HERE) under the driving mode motorbike, with the following result.
    Bildschirmfoto 2025-01-02 um 17.10.26.png
    only by using OpenStreetMap I received the expected result
    Bildschirmfoto 2025-01-02 um 17.13.37.png
    But then received the message that the selected riding mode does only function with TomTom and HERE. Why is that the case? Shouldn't also HERE and TomTom be able to route on this street? Where can I select septic capabilities of my bike?

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      Rob Kelley
      wrote on 2 Jan 2025, 18:46 last edited by Rob Kelley 1 Feb 2025, 18:46
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      I've managed to repliacte this issue using the same location and got the same issue, this is probaly a issue with HERE maps rather than MRA.
      You can choose to use OSM mapping but you 'may' get some strange routing, or it maybe ok.
      In this instance I would place a Waypoint at the junction called 'turn left or right' here to get you on the correct route and then follow the road to 11.
      Sometimes we have to get creative.

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        2 Jan 2025, 18:46

        I've managed to repliacte this issue using the same location and got the same issue, this is probaly a issue with HERE maps rather than MRA.
        You can choose to use OSM mapping but you 'may' get some strange routing, or it maybe ok.
        In this instance I would place a Waypoint at the junction called 'turn left or right' here to get you on the correct route and then follow the road to 11.
        Sometimes we have to get creative.

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        Converted_
        wrote on 2 Jan 2025, 19:05 last edited by
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        @Rob-Kelley thank you very much for your response. I already thought it might be an issue of my equipment.
        Sure I will be creative not to miss the junction, but to be honest that’s like being back in „base camp“. I might be wrong, but this road should be picked by MRA. Would be nice to understand, why it’s not picked.

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          2 Jan 2025, 19:05

          @Rob-Kelley thank you very much for your response. I already thought it might be an issue of my equipment.
          Sure I will be creative not to miss the junction, but to be honest that’s like being back in „base camp“. I might be wrong, but this road should be picked by MRA. Would be nice to understand, why it’s not picked.

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          Rob Kelley
          wrote on 2 Jan 2025, 21:41 last edited by
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          @Converted_
          As I mentioned, I think the issue is with the HERE mapping which is a 3rd party service and not an issue with MRA.

          GSA1250
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            2 Jan 2025, 16:15

            I was trying to plan a rout with my motorbike through the german als including some specific points. I was looking for specific locations that can be reached with the motorbike, taking into account the the navigation is not considering seasonal blockings. I was trying to drive from Schlipfhalden via Fuchsalm (Stop point) to Gschwend. I was trying different methods (TomTom/HERE) under the driving mode motorbike, with the following result.
            Bildschirmfoto 2025-01-02 um 17.10.26.png
            only by using OpenStreetMap I received the expected result
            Bildschirmfoto 2025-01-02 um 17.13.37.png
            But then received the message that the selected riding mode does only function with TomTom and HERE. Why is that the case? Shouldn't also HERE and TomTom be able to route on this street? Where can I select septic capabilities of my bike?

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            Con Hennekens
            Alpha tester
            wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 11:06 last edited by
            #5

            @Converted_, the entry of this road looks like this:
            37c55a6d-a612-424a-acdf-aa5f486fcff9-image.png

            I am not really sure, but I think the sign says "Forschungsweg", and the smaller text probably says it is not allowed for other then local traffic or "Anlieger". So in this specific case HERE might just be the correct one 😉

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              3 Jan 2025, 11:06

              @Converted_, the entry of this road looks like this:
              37c55a6d-a612-424a-acdf-aa5f486fcff9-image.png

              I am not really sure, but I think the sign says "Forschungsweg", and the smaller text probably says it is not allowed for other then local traffic or "Anlieger". So in this specific case HERE might just be the correct one 😉

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              Converted_
              wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 11:26 last edited by
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              @Con-Hennekens said in Riding mode not specific enough:

              @Converted_, the entry of this road looks like this:
              37c55a6d-a612-424a-acdf-aa5f486fcff9-image.png

              I am not really sure, but I think the sign says "Forschungsweg", and the smaller text probably says it is not allowed for other then local traffic or "Anlieger". So in this specific case HERE might just be the correct one 😉

              Hi Con-Hennekens,
              than you very much for your comment.
              You might be correct with your interpretation of the sign. But what I have uploaded is an official rout published by TourenFahrer and to be honest I can hardly imagine that they propose to drive a road that would not be legal. Additional to that if it would not be legal to drive that road how come TomTom make this possible.

              Anyway, I have a work around and maybe that will help me in the future.

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                3 Jan 2025, 11:26

                @Con-Hennekens said in Riding mode not specific enough:

                @Converted_, the entry of this road looks like this:
                37c55a6d-a612-424a-acdf-aa5f486fcff9-image.png

                I am not really sure, but I think the sign says "Forschungsweg", and the smaller text probably says it is not allowed for other then local traffic or "Anlieger". So in this specific case HERE might just be the correct one 😉

                Hi Con-Hennekens,
                than you very much for your comment.
                You might be correct with your interpretation of the sign. But what I have uploaded is an official rout published by TourenFahrer and to be honest I can hardly imagine that they propose to drive a road that would not be legal. Additional to that if it would not be legal to drive that road how come TomTom make this possible.

                Anyway, I have a work around and maybe that will help me in the future.

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                Con Hennekens
                Alpha tester
                wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 12:57 last edited by
                #7

                Multiple thoughts really. Maybe the signs are quite new and not all map providers are aware. Or maybe the signs have been removed, and StreetView as well as HERE are behind. Many possibilities 😉

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                  Martin Wilcke
                  wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 13:45 last edited by Martin Wilcke 1 Mar 2025, 13:50
                  #8

                  It's a "no parking zone", a "Rettungsweg" / "escape lane(?)", private property (typically means "use at your own risk") but not restricted.
                  OSM shows no restriction either.

                  pic.jpg

                  Should be allowed for cars and motorbikes.

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                  • undefined Martin Wilcke
                    3 Jan 2025, 13:45

                    It's a "no parking zone", a "Rettungsweg" / "escape lane(?)", private property (typically means "use at your own risk") but not restricted.
                    OSM shows no restriction either.

                    pic.jpg

                    Should be allowed for cars and motorbikes.

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                    Converted_
                    wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 13:54 last edited by
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                    @Martin-Wilcke thank you very much for clarification!

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                      Martin Wilcke
                      wrote on 3 Jan 2025, 14:12 last edited by
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                      Out of curiosity, I registered for the "HERE map creator" and had a look:

                      pic2.jpg

                      The information on the HERE map seems to be outdated, but as I have no local knowledge of this area, I don't want to change that.

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