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  • paul69undefined paul69

    @Mzokk said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

    Track is in list.

    please correct me if i am wrong, as i have not had an XT for some time now
    but off memory, you would not be able to see the track in the tracks menu if explore was running, hence why i posted the link to thread explaining how to remove explore.

    but I am only guessing from memeory as I do not have an XT, so maybe my input is pointless

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    wrote on last edited by Mzokk
    #21

    @paul69 I don't use explore so the XT reverts to the old Garmin method of displaying a track by ticking it in the menu. The Drive app works fine without explore being installed on your phone or linked to your XT unit.

    04524e83-328d-485e-89f2-0d7231c0ff0c-7452[1].png

    You obviously have to manually untick the track when you have finished using it.

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    • paul69undefined paul69

      @Mzokk said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

      Track is in list.

      please correct me if i am wrong, as i have not had an XT for some time now
      but off memory, you would not be able to see the track in the tracks menu if explore was running, hence why i posted the link to thread explaining how to remove explore.

      but I am only guessing from memeory as I do not have an XT, so maybe my input is pointless

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      Mzokk
      wrote on last edited by
      #22

      @paul69 I am thinking of going down the route of using MRA for navigation as well as route planning. Sometimes the testing gets a bit ridiculous.

      IMG_20240814_123645288_HDR.jpg

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      • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

        @paul69 I am thinking of going down the route of using MRA for navigation as well as route planning. Sometimes the testing gets a bit ridiculous.

        IMG_20240814_123645288_HDR.jpg

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        paul69
        wrote on last edited by
        #23

        @Mzokk
        🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

        to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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        • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

          @paul69 I don't use explore so the XT reverts to the old Garmin method of displaying a track by ticking it in the menu. The Drive app works fine without explore being installed on your phone or linked to your XT unit.

          04524e83-328d-485e-89f2-0d7231c0ff0c-7452[1].png

          You obviously have to manually untick the track when you have finished using it.

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          paul69
          wrote on last edited by paul69
          #24

          @Mzokk
          this is what i have been trying to explain to people, you do not get this option with explore activated.

          replied to this a bit late, but never mind

          for those looking in, this refers to 3 posts above this one

          to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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          • paul69undefined paul69

            hi @Mike-wiruth

            just found this which was written by the font of knowledge on the zumo forum explaining how to get rid of explore.

            https://www.zumouserforums.co.uk/app.php/ZXT-P56

            this is also has an effect on viewing the routes/tracks in the XT menus, but thankfully i do not have to put up with the nuances of the XT any longer thanks to MRA

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            Mike wiruth
            wrote on last edited by
            #25

            @paul69 Paul, thanks very much. I went to the link and followed the instructions and got rid of explore on my xt. I also signed up for the zumo forum. This should be a great place to get more zumo related answers. Thanks again for your help.

            Mike W
            2013 Honda Goldwing
            Bushtec Trailer
            Garmin Zumo XT
            Nebraska
            youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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            • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

              @Mike-wiruth the method I use to transfer routes and navigate using the XT are as follows.

              I usually plot my routes on the computer screen (unless I'm on tour) as its easier to work with a 27" screen that a phone. I transfer my routes from the phone to the XT via the App. 5cc3c46a-de36-4866-9b06-452417a41cee-image.png
              8373cf83-040c-4ed2-b99e-261a4fdceeee-image.png
              This is not an ideal route but will illustrate some issues that can arise with the XT
              ced92716-ec90-4f9c-bfa3-cb76b68b6eef-image.png
              I download using GPX1.1 because this shows how you shaped the route using MRA and allows you to fix a route that does not go where you want on the XT. I also download the track of the route which will be as planned in MRA.
              a693615c-8ad5-4053-9d6b-1f1d218ac020-image.png
              18ac4979-1118-4bb7-a761-7c5c64cba8d5-image.png

              Route Received
              c7acc4d1-fc0d-43dc-ab25-19170a267ed7-17707[1].png

              Track Received
              e4f6a43b-a21c-4d68-826f-a95d84e17ce2-17294[2].png
              3fc9385f-e0f3-468a-b15c-2c9dadf17506-20128[1].png

              Open Trip planner route will be in list.
              b2606866-876d-46c6-9e46-dd3225dfd821-image.png

              Track is in list.
              15a4ec15-5c53-42c8-8367-28d0c6086a55-image.png

              Open Route (Address near my house removed)
              0a4e21e7-294d-4340-afb9-fcb8d05c3027-image.png

              Open Track Default is blue but I change the colour to yellow.
              ba1b8f79-1756-4191-a27d-aca5296c87b1-31106[1].png

              Open the route and Track and make the track visible on the XT
              401edf8a-d088-40ed-b251-c9b2aa2188cc-36293[1].png

              You can see that I wanted to go along the coast but the XT's routing logic is taking me back to a town and then back to the intended route as designed. This can be fixed by putting in an extra shaping point in the XT.

              1f227e02-3dfa-4225-80c1-d45a27ea51ea-40542[1].png

              7a73806a-1dac-4fe7-9b33-338490ffaa9f-image.png

              Or by ensuring there are enough waypoints in the route you designed in MRA.
              I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line even when navigating. It gives a heads up if the XT is going away from your intended route. I keep recalculate on the unit as "Prompted" and only use recalculate if I can't navigate back to my intended route using the screen.

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              Mike wiruth
              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              @Mzokk So how do you display both the track and the route? I checked my xt and went to trip planner and opened up the trip I designed. Then what do you do? Go back and open the track too? When I downloaded it I chose gpx 1.2 route, track, poi

              Mike W
              2013 Honda Goldwing
              Bushtec Trailer
              Garmin Zumo XT
              Nebraska
              youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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              • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                @Mike-wiruth the method I use to transfer routes and navigate using the XT are as follows.

                I usually plot my routes on the computer screen (unless I'm on tour) as its easier to work with a 27" screen that a phone. I transfer my routes from the phone to the XT via the App. 5cc3c46a-de36-4866-9b06-452417a41cee-image.png
                8373cf83-040c-4ed2-b99e-261a4fdceeee-image.png
                This is not an ideal route but will illustrate some issues that can arise with the XT
                ced92716-ec90-4f9c-bfa3-cb76b68b6eef-image.png
                I download using GPX1.1 because this shows how you shaped the route using MRA and allows you to fix a route that does not go where you want on the XT. I also download the track of the route which will be as planned in MRA.
                a693615c-8ad5-4053-9d6b-1f1d218ac020-image.png
                18ac4979-1118-4bb7-a761-7c5c64cba8d5-image.png

                Route Received
                c7acc4d1-fc0d-43dc-ab25-19170a267ed7-17707[1].png

                Track Received
                e4f6a43b-a21c-4d68-826f-a95d84e17ce2-17294[2].png
                3fc9385f-e0f3-468a-b15c-2c9dadf17506-20128[1].png

                Open Trip planner route will be in list.
                b2606866-876d-46c6-9e46-dd3225dfd821-image.png

                Track is in list.
                15a4ec15-5c53-42c8-8367-28d0c6086a55-image.png

                Open Route (Address near my house removed)
                0a4e21e7-294d-4340-afb9-fcb8d05c3027-image.png

                Open Track Default is blue but I change the colour to yellow.
                ba1b8f79-1756-4191-a27d-aca5296c87b1-31106[1].png

                Open the route and Track and make the track visible on the XT
                401edf8a-d088-40ed-b251-c9b2aa2188cc-36293[1].png

                You can see that I wanted to go along the coast but the XT's routing logic is taking me back to a town and then back to the intended route as designed. This can be fixed by putting in an extra shaping point in the XT.

                1f227e02-3dfa-4225-80c1-d45a27ea51ea-40542[1].png

                7a73806a-1dac-4fe7-9b33-338490ffaa9f-image.png

                Or by ensuring there are enough waypoints in the route you designed in MRA.
                I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line even when navigating. It gives a heads up if the XT is going away from your intended route. I keep recalculate on the unit as "Prompted" and only use recalculate if I can't navigate back to my intended route using the screen.

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                Mike wiruth
                wrote on last edited by
                #27

                @Mzokk Also where in settings do you change the color of routes and tracks? Also, how did you get those great screen shots of your xt screen? Thanks for all your hard work of posting this reply. Great work. I was a great help. You might regret it though, I'm a learner, always wanting to learn more and I might burden you with questions. LOL

                Mike W
                2013 Honda Goldwing
                Bushtec Trailer
                Garmin Zumo XT
                Nebraska
                youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                • Mike wiruthundefined Mike wiruth

                  @Mzokk Also where in settings do you change the color of routes and tracks? Also, how did you get those great screen shots of your xt screen? Thanks for all your hard work of posting this reply. Great work. I was a great help. You might regret it though, I'm a learner, always wanting to learn more and I might burden you with questions. LOL

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                  RouteXperts
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                  #28

                  @Mike-wiruth of you got rid of explore in your XT in the settings you can choose to display any track and choose the with and color.
                  They are display under your route so is you go of route it's instantly visible

                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
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                  • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                    @Mike-wiruth of you got rid of explore in your XT in the settings you can choose to display any track and choose the with and color.
                    They are display under your route so is you go of route it's instantly visible

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                    Mike wiruth
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #29

                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom How do you do it? I can't seem to open them both up at the same time. Also, need to know where to go to change the color of the track. Thanks for any help you can give me.

                    Mike W
                    2013 Honda Goldwing
                    Bushtec Trailer
                    Garmin Zumo XT
                    Nebraska
                    youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                    • Mike wiruthundefined Mike wiruth

                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom How do you do it? I can't seem to open them both up at the same time. Also, need to know where to go to change the color of the track. Thanks for any help you can give me.

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                      Mzokk
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #30

                      @Mike-wiruth Hi Mike if you go into tracks this is the sequence.
                      19366[1].png

                      Open Tracks
                      20875[1].png

                      Click on the spanner to show the track on the map. This stays on until you unclick it even if you are not navigating.
                      24913[1].png
                      To change colour and width of the track you click on the spanner and scroll to the menu Item

                      21880[1].png

                      22384[2].png

                      23694[1].png

                      So you can set up the track of the route you intend to run at any time and the track will stay until you untick it.

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                      • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                        @Mike-wiruth Hi Mike if you go into tracks this is the sequence.
                        19366[1].png

                        Open Tracks
                        20875[1].png

                        Click on the spanner to show the track on the map. This stays on until you unclick it even if you are not navigating.
                        24913[1].png
                        To change colour and width of the track you click on the spanner and scroll to the menu Item

                        21880[1].png

                        22384[2].png

                        23694[1].png

                        So you can set up the track of the route you intend to run at any time and the track will stay until you untick it.

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                        Mike wiruth
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #31

                        @Mzokk Great, thanks for those steps. When you set the properties of the track, to see both at once, do you have to Start the track, then back out and start the route? I looked at the route, and when I first looked at it I could see what looked like the track on the outside of the route, I made the track the widest and color in red. But, when I zoomed in, I couldn't see the track anymore. But, I guess the good news is the track was the same as the route. No deviation.

                        Mike W
                        2013 Honda Goldwing
                        Bushtec Trailer
                        Garmin Zumo XT
                        Nebraska
                        youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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