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    • Mike wiruth
      Mike wiruth last edited by

      Hello, I am new to the MyRoute app software. I just bought a lifetime plan. I have a Garmin Zumo XT. I created a small test loop from my house out a few miles with a bunch of turns and then back close to my house, about a block away. I saved it as a GPX1.1 route, track, poi. Then imported to my garmin. It found it and asked if I want to import it to the trip planner. I did. When I opened it up, it looked great. But when I hit go, it blew out the whole route and went from my house out to the stopping point and back. Eliminating my whole route. Please help. Here is what it looked like. d19d7af2-5725-418d-bf41-2836819c7d4a-image.png

      Mike W
      2013 Honda Goldwing
      Bushtec Trailer
      Garmin Zumo XT
      Nebraska
      youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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      • TomOnTour
        TomOnTour last edited by

        Hi Mike!

        I was using an XT for quite a long time and never had this issues. What confuses me a bit is the fact that you are asked for importing it into the route planner or not.
        What I did - and that worked pretty well - was, that I used the Gamin Drive APP to gt the GPX 1.1 files onto my XT. As fas as I know that is the way to go, if you use a XT as your final navigation device.

        I hope this helps a bit.

        Greetings
        Thomas

        MyRoute-APP Navigation Next Lifetime (4.3.8 - 386)
        iphone 12 Pro (iOS 18.4.1)
        on KTM 1290 Super Adventure R (model 2022)

        MRA Routeplanner (Lifetime Gold)
        using iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.4.1) and Macbook Air (macOS 15.4.1)

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        • Marinus van Deudekom
          Marinus van Deudekom RouteXperts @Mike wiruth last edited by

          @Mike-wiruth Hi Mike
          With an XT a lot of things can go wrong of the route itself isn't maar correct. The XT tends to mess up your route.
          What I do is export the route using the drive app.
          If the route is still not the one you designed it must be how it was created.
          Share your route here and make sure it's set to public and we'll have a peak at it to help you out
          Have fun

          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
          Honda Silverwing GL 650
          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          • Mzokk
            Mzokk last edited by

            1. First thing with the XT is to start the route about half a mile way from where you are. The unit will navigate you to the first point. This stops the unit getting confused and taking you straight to the end.

            2. On an out and back route like you have shown put at least one via point (Hand) at the furthest point in the out route so that if you have to skip a waypoint (shaping point in Garmin speak) it won't recalculate and take you back to the end.

            3. I use an XT and like it but there are lots of oddities with it compared to older Garmin units. I've got used to it but it drove me mad for the first 6 months I had it and I have a BMW nav IV and two 3XX garmin units as well. Its worth reading jfheath's excellent guide on the Garmin Zumo Forums.

            4. I've found the combination of the XT MRA for planning and the Garmin Drive app great for creating bespoke on the fly routes while I'm on tour.

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            • Mike wiruth
              Mike wiruth @Mzokk last edited by

              @Mzokk Great information, can you post the link for the Garmin forum that you use? I got the XT because my other garmin kept changing my custom route if I took a wrong turn or stopped for gas. Very frustrating. I'm excited about making custom routes in MRA. I just have to get it all figured out on the best method to import it to my XT. Right now I just plug in my xt and drop the file into the gpx folder. Garmin explore doesn't seem to work with the xp. It says that the xt in not a supported device. I have some confusion on what file type to download is as. 1.1 gpx route, track, poi????? And when I open it on the XT if I need to open it in the trip planner or track or what. Can you help with that explaining the method you use? Thanks very much for taking the time to reply and thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

              Mike W
              2013 Honda Goldwing
              Bushtec Trailer
              Garmin Zumo XT
              Nebraska
              youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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              • Marinus van Deudekom
                Marinus van Deudekom RouteXperts @Mike wiruth last edited by

                @Mike-wiruth dont install Garmin explore because that will have a conflict with your XT
                Install Garmin Drive. Then you can export the routes from MRA directly without any cables. I find the 1.2 export the best because then you have the route including the viapoints AND the track according to the route as you made it in MRA.
                If you already installed Garmin explore set the XT to factory reset and start over again and don't install explore

                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                • Mzokk
                  Mzokk @Mike wiruth last edited by Mzokk

                  @Mike-wiruth

                  This is the Forum that I use for Zumo related information.

                  https://www.zumouserforums.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=48

                  Also what Marinus says don't use explore its terrible software. Using Garmin drive to move MRA routes and tracks to your XT from your phone works well.

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                  • Mike wiruth
                    Mike wiruth @Marinus van Deudekom last edited by

                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom I deleted Garmin Explore from my phone. I then went to my navigator and am in the process of wirelessly sending the file to my xp via Garmin Drive. It takes forever. This is a simple route that I created to test it. Seems to be hung up.

                    Mike W
                    2013 Honda Goldwing
                    Bushtec Trailer
                    Garmin Zumo XT
                    Nebraska
                    youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                    • Mike wiruth
                      Mike wiruth @Marinus van Deudekom last edited by

                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom VICTORY!!!
                      I got it to work. I'm not sure how do delete Garmin explore from the xt. I deleted it from my phone though. I reset the xt but not sure if it was a factory reset or not. But, I got the route to go over to the xt and when it worked as it should it was fast. It imported tracks and a route. I assume that I would use the route in trip planner to navigate for turn by turn directions? Thanks again for your help.

                      Mike W
                      2013 Honda Goldwing
                      Bushtec Trailer
                      Garmin Zumo XT
                      Nebraska
                      youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                      • Mike wiruth
                        Mike wiruth last edited by

                        I seem to have it working. Thanks everyone for your help. Now I just need to learn how to use the software on the computer to design custom routes. To learn the purpose of waypoints and shaping points.

                        Mike W
                        2013 Honda Goldwing
                        Bushtec Trailer
                        Garmin Zumo XT
                        Nebraska
                        youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                        • paul69
                          paul69 @Mike wiruth last edited by paul69

                          @Mike-wiruth said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

                          I'm not sure how do delete Garmin explore from the xt.

                          hi,

                          i seem to rmemeber when i used an XT the explore did create problems, but you now know this.
                          it has been quite a while since i owned an XT, but off memory, you have to reset the drive app and when you get to the explore part it ask do you want install explore, i think there was was a box for "maybe later", click on this box.
                          i did write an explanation of how to do this but can't remember if it was on here or the zumo forum, which has a link above, i will have look and post the thread

                          to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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                          • paul69
                            paul69 last edited by paul69

                            hi @Mike-wiruth

                            just found this which was written by the font of knowledge on the zumo forum explaining how to get rid of explore.

                            https://www.zumouserforums.co.uk/app.php/ZXT-P56

                            this is also has an effect on viewing the routes/tracks in the XT menus, but thankfully i do not have to put up with the nuances of the XT any longer thanks to MRA

                            to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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                            • Dave J 0
                              Dave J 0 @paul69 last edited by

                              @paul69 have had similar problems to you with an XT2 and the awful Tread App changing routes and points as a result of the app and device sync. Garmin have really not done a good job with the software for a very good device.

                              XT2 is a backup now with me relying on MRA on a CarPlay display. Working a treat and the new changes are brilliant.

                              Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                              Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                              iPhone 15 Pro
                              Chigee AIO-5 Play
                              Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                              Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                              • paul69
                                paul69 @Dave J 0 last edited by

                                @Dave-J-0 said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

                                XT2 is a backup now with me relying on MRA on a CarPlay display. Working a treat and the new changes are brilliant.

                                i took this route too a couple of years ago, but the XT has long gone now.
                                I believe that MRA is a really good piece of software and once oyu get used to using it ther are very little if any issues.
                                recently did a 2000m tour of Scottish Highland and Lake district, without a hitch, all pre planned routes worked as they should, i also had to use the in app route planner due to road closure and this also worked superbly, and this was only in beta stage at that point.

                                to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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                                • Mzokk
                                  Mzokk @Mike wiruth last edited by

                                  @Mike-wiruth The transfer from Garmin Drive to the XT should be almost instant.

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                                  • Mzokk
                                    Mzokk @Mike wiruth last edited by

                                    @Mike-wiruth the method I use to transfer routes and navigate using the XT are as follows.

                                    I usually plot my routes on the computer screen (unless I'm on tour) as its easier to work with a 27" screen that a phone. I transfer my routes from the phone to the XT via the App. 5cc3c46a-de36-4866-9b06-452417a41cee-image.png
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                                    This is not an ideal route but will illustrate some issues that can arise with the XT
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                                    I download using GPX1.1 because this shows how you shaped the route using MRA and allows you to fix a route that does not go where you want on the XT. I also download the track of the route which will be as planned in MRA.
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                                    Route Received
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                                    Track Received
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                                    Open Trip planner route will be in list.
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                                    Track is in list.
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                                    Open Route (Address near my house removed)
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                                    Open Track Default is blue but I change the colour to yellow.
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                                    Open the route and Track and make the track visible on the XT
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                                    You can see that I wanted to go along the coast but the XT's routing logic is taking me back to a town and then back to the intended route as designed. This can be fixed by putting in an extra shaping point in the XT.

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                                    Or by ensuring there are enough waypoints in the route you designed in MRA.
                                    I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line even when navigating. It gives a heads up if the XT is going away from your intended route. I keep recalculate on the unit as "Prompted" and only use recalculate if I can't navigate back to my intended route using the screen.

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                                    • paul69
                                      paul69 @Mzokk last edited by

                                      @Mzokk said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

                                      Track is in list.

                                      please correct me if i am wrong, as i have not had an XT for some time now
                                      but off memory, you would not be able to see the track in the tracks menu if explore was running, hence why i posted the link to thread explaining how to remove explore.

                                      but I am only guessing from memeory as I do not have an XT, so maybe my input is pointless

                                      to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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                                      • paul69
                                        paul69 last edited by paul69

                                        hi,
                                        the above wording does not make my query clear

                                        If explore is running and you send track and routes as either 1.2 or 1.1 to the XT using drive app, am i correct in thinking the tracks cannot be seen in the tracks menu.

                                        yes that makes more sense

                                        to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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                                        • Reinhard-32
                                          Reinhard-32 @Mzokk last edited by

                                          @Mzokk I do so in the same manner and it works fine.

                                          Kindly regards
                                          Reinhard

                                          ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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                                          • paul69
                                            paul69 @Mzokk last edited by

                                            @Mzokk said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

                                            I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line

                                            i did this too, it was brilliant way to see if the route had gone off somewhere else, instantly noticeable

                                            to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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