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  • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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    M. Schrijver
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    #6

    I've been driving with TomTom Go for many years.
    This is trackbased navigation but it taught me that magic can happen. TomTom Go is now a rocksolid navigation tool. It does not require user input when riding. When something happens and i am forced to take an alternative route, i force TomTom Go to follow me and mostly within a kilometer more or less it understand my intention and guides me with an logical bypass back to the original route. In many cases TomTom Go calculated the same route as pointed out by roadsigns for the alternative route.

    @Corjan-Meijerink said in Using your phone while riding becomes complicated (Belgium law):

    If you dismissed / cancelled the resume option, you indeed need to skip a lot of waypoints manually. Just do that before getting on the bike

    Do you know how frustrating this is when you know it is not necessary.
    When i write some comment i get the impression that i'm a shouting person in the dessert.
    But when is speak to other persons during holidays or meetings. I get the feeling that i request is not so much different what most other people like.
    Just navigation software that thinks for them.

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

      I've been driving with TomTom Go for many years.
      This is trackbased navigation but it taught me that magic can happen. TomTom Go is now a rocksolid navigation tool. It does not require user input when riding. When something happens and i am forced to take an alternative route, i force TomTom Go to follow me and mostly within a kilometer more or less it understand my intention and guides me with an logical bypass back to the original route. In many cases TomTom Go calculated the same route as pointed out by roadsigns for the alternative route.

      @Corjan-Meijerink said in Using your phone while riding becomes complicated (Belgium law):

      If you dismissed / cancelled the resume option, you indeed need to skip a lot of waypoints manually. Just do that before getting on the bike

      Do you know how frustrating this is when you know it is not necessary.
      When i write some comment i get the impression that i'm a shouting person in the dessert.
      But when is speak to other persons during holidays or meetings. I get the feeling that i request is not so much different what most other people like.
      Just navigation software that thinks for them.

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      Con Hennekens
      wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
      #7

      @M-Schrijver said in Using your phone while riding becomes complicated (Belgium law):

      Do you know how frustrating this is when you know it is not necessary.

      It feels like you already have a really great alternative. Why not just use that?

      When i write some comment i get the impression that i'm a shouting person in the dessert.

      Your suggestions are very welcome. The way you think you have to enforce them for me personally is not.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        @Peter-Schiefer said in Using your phone while riding becomes complicated (Belgium law):

        Carried over to touch handling the simplest way is to prevent any touch using when the smartphone is somewhat in move with e.g. more then 7 km/h by GPS measurement

        How does this work for passengers in a vehicle?

        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

          @M-Schrijver I very seldom have to make any changes to an MRA route that I am using but when I do I use my SilverFox Bluetooth Controller. It is also illegal to touch a phone or gps device here in the UK.

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          @Nick-Carthew it is not illegal to touch your phone or satnav in the UK so long as it is in a cradle. It's then not "hand held" and would be no different to touching a screen built in to a car. To be prosecuted you would have to be considered as not being in full control of your vehicle. e.g. swerving all over the road whilst fiddling with it.

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          • Howard Millichapundefined Howard Millichap

            @Nick-Carthew it is not illegal to touch your phone or satnav in the UK so long as it is in a cradle. It's then not "hand held" and would be no different to touching a screen built in to a car. To be prosecuted you would have to be considered as not being in full control of your vehicle. e.g. swerving all over the road whilst fiddling with it.

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            @Howard-Millichap Thank you for the clarification. A Bluetooth controller is still the best option though 😊

            Always willing to help if I can.
            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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            • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

              @Howard-Millichap Thank you for the clarification. A Bluetooth controller is still the best option though 😊

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              #11

              @Nick-Carthew

              Why not ditch Via Points completely then just assign a specific colour to shaping points to be a sudo Via Point.
              No interaction needed.

              You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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              • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                @Nick-Carthew

                Why not ditch Via Points completely then just assign a specific colour to shaping points to be a sudo Via Point.
                No interaction needed.

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                @Lynchy67
                With what purpose?

                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                  @Lynchy67
                  With what purpose?

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                  @M-Schrijver

                  To negate the need to have any interaction with the route at all.

                  You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                  • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                    @Nick-Carthew

                    Why not ditch Via Points completely then just assign a specific colour to shaping points to be a sudo Via Point.
                    No interaction needed.

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                    RouteXperts Instructor
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                    @Lynchy67 said in Using your phone while riding becomes complicated (Belgium law):

                    @Nick-Carthew

                    Why not ditch Via Points completely then just assign a specific colour to shaping points to be a sudo Via Point.
                    No interaction needed.

                    Via points are useful for marking stops as via points can be separated, by this I mean that you can use the ETA box to see time and distance to the next via point, useful if you have a rumbling tum like me 😁 and as I said I seldom need to interact in that sense, ie skipping but if I do it is simple with the SilverFox controller. Most of my interactions with the app are zooming and checking the ETA for the next stop.

                    Always willing to help if I can.
                    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                    Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                    TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                    • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                      @Nick-Carthew

                      Why not ditch Via Points completely then just assign a specific colour to shaping points to be a sudo Via Point.
                      No interaction needed.

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                      @Lynchy67 said in Using your phone while riding becomes complicated (Belgium law):

                      No interaction needed.

                      What interaction would be prevented but that exactly?

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        I suspect the autoskip function.

                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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