Waypoints before route instructions

[Con Hennekens]

@Jack-van-Tilburg, Yes, maybe it would make sense to NOT have announcements in the left tile, but only in the right tile. A waypoint is no routing instruction after all.

[Jack van Tilburg]

There is nothing wrong with keeping some human thinking
In any case, it does not hurt to check the route before you drive it.
And what is the purpose of the waypoint so close to a left-right turn point? Probably meant to guarantee the direction. And then it makes more sense to place the point after the intersection.
The more solutions offered by technology, the more complex the software (technically) becomes.

[David Bonner]

@GT-JWR Second that! The top left information box should display what to do at the next turning, nothing else. This is a fundamental pre-requisite of a navigation system and should not be compromised.

[Mark Hamilton 0]

@Jack-van-Tilburg fully understand the need for good planning and placement of route points but the expand function would be redundant in effect if we have to move them all to places where they don’t affect the Nav instructions. There will be situations where you have to have numerous route points to ensure that between point a-b that the route stays as you require and these route points can’t then go after the turn so they would mask the next instruction.

[Mark Hamilton 0]

@Corjan-Meijerink great - keep up the top work.

[Con Hennekens]

@Mark-Hamilton-0, The expand function is just a quick way to add shaping points. The placement is still your own responsibility.

@David-Bonner, That is too bold a statement. Often waypoints have a specific meaning, by color, by pause or pause symbol, by POI manual entered name or whatever. The right tile was initial only meant as button for skipping. While I mildly agree with you, in the end it is the developers choice about what is fundamental in their application. But hey... The MRA developers actually listen in on the forum

[Mark Hamilton 0]

@Con-Hennekens yes agreed but if eg ‘expand’ puts 3 on a 20 km stretch of road (which may be needed to stop route variation by nav device) then I should only be making sure that they are on the route and not at junctions, overpasses, wrong side of carriageway - not removing them so I can see when the next turn is. Again in this example if I remove them the Nav device may vary the route.
Happy Corjan sees the need and it’s on the list.

[bluetuz]

Hi, I think top left information must include only next instruction, because you have the waypoint/shaping point information in the top right button.

Other thing I think is very important is to have on the screen the name of the next waypoint, this is a important information on a planned route

[Dave J 0]

For me, waypoint title/colour (together with notes sometimes) are key to how I plot with the planner for these aspects to then show up in the top left. It is one of the reasons I like the new nav aspect of MRA as I can see 'consideration' comments at coloured shaping points as well as my definite via points for must stops. Never had a problem with turn masking as shaping points are always placed after junctions/turns (even when I have used the 'expand' tool occasionally). However, I do see that what may work for one person is an annoyance for another and vice versa

The key point is configurability as we all use the planning tool to compile routes in our own way and want this information displayed in a way that works for us individually. The MRA team do listen carefully to feedback but they have to balance these requests against their want to not complicate their vision for the app in line with the planning tool. Neither do they, I believe, want to replicate other apps or devices' ways of working. For me this is the strength of what MRA are trying to do with this app.

The new nav element in the app is now my main app for all my motorcycle navigation as is the planning tool for route construction. Yes, I want some additions to what can be done and configured with the app as the app develops from this first release but not changes in the way that the app fundamentally works in line with the planning tool's features and strengths.

[Neil Hinkins]

I thought I would just revisit this subject as while on a weeks riding holiday it became very irritating not being able to see the next turn in the top left box due to the way point being in front of it. I understand that these way points can be moved to after a turn but on a big route with lots of turns that can be very time consuming. for the main part the app worked really well and the MRA teem should be very proud of themselves for a great product.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Neil-Hinkins thanks!
I’m happy to share that this is improved in the upcoming update!

[Neil Hinkins]

@Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for your response I look forward to the up dates.