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    Willy DEOM
    wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 15:54 last edited by
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    Première sortie à moto avec la version beta :

    Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G - Android 13 Batterie 4.500 mAh
    Version beta 3.2.8 - 150

    1° sans alimentation du smartphone
    Démarrage à 10h à 100% avec uniquement un itinéraire + suivi + Bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie vide (0%) à 12h !!!

    2° Essai avec alimentation :
    Démarrage à 14h30, batterie à 58% avec uniquement itinéraire + bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie à 44% à 15h30

    Effectivement, la batterie se vide à une vitesse VV' alors qu'en utilisation normale, la batterie tient plus de 2 jours.

    Je suis certain de ne pas tenir toute une journée malgré l'alimentation 12V.
    C'est un réel problème que je n'avais pas avec la version MRA Navigation.

    Bon travail et bonne continuation, on compte sur vous

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      14 Feb 2023, 15:54

      Première sortie à moto avec la version beta :

      Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G - Android 13 Batterie 4.500 mAh
      Version beta 3.2.8 - 150

      1° sans alimentation du smartphone
      Démarrage à 10h à 100% avec uniquement un itinéraire + suivi + Bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie vide (0%) à 12h !!!

      2° Essai avec alimentation :
      Démarrage à 14h30, batterie à 58% avec uniquement itinéraire + bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie à 44% à 15h30

      Effectivement, la batterie se vide à une vitesse VV' alors qu'en utilisation normale, la batterie tient plus de 2 jours.

      Je suis certain de ne pas tenir toute une journée malgré l'alimentation 12V.
      C'est un réel problème que je n'avais pas avec la version MRA Navigation.

      Bon travail et bonne continuation, on compte sur vous

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      Corjan Meijerink
      administrator
      wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 16:28 last edited by
      #15

      @Willy-DEOM Thanks for sharing the feedback and further information. We will continue investigating the issue.

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        14 Feb 2023, 15:37

        @Rob-Verhoeff That's very decent! Thanks for sharing the information 🙂

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        Dave J 0
        wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 17:20 last edited by
        #16

        @Corjan-Meijerink Just been on a run today with my iPhone 8 Plus (iOS 16.3.1) and there was no drain on battery whilst tracking, navigating and screen recording. Indeed, the charge increased to 100% as the ride went on. I was using a cable from auxiliary socket to the Lightning Port to charge and i will check wireless charge performance on the bike next time I am out on it. No issues with drain from my perspective.

        Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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        iPhone 15 Pro
        Chigee AIO-5 Play
        Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
        Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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          14 Feb 2023, 17:20

          @Corjan-Meijerink Just been on a run today with my iPhone 8 Plus (iOS 16.3.1) and there was no drain on battery whilst tracking, navigating and screen recording. Indeed, the charge increased to 100% as the ride went on. I was using a cable from auxiliary socket to the Lightning Port to charge and i will check wireless charge performance on the bike next time I am out on it. No issues with drain from my perspective.

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          Corjan Meijerink
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          wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 17:56 last edited by
          #17

          @Dave-J-0 Thanks for confirming another side of this issue! I just drove for 45 minutes with full screen brightness, tracking on and using the nee navigation.

          Battery usage was 15% which is pretty decent. When using Google Maps this morning during a 35 minute ride, the battery usage was 11% which is very similar.

          My device is an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

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            14 Feb 2023, 17:56

            @Dave-J-0 Thanks for confirming another side of this issue! I just drove for 45 minutes with full screen brightness, tracking on and using the nee navigation.

            Battery usage was 15% which is pretty decent. When using Google Maps this morning during a 35 minute ride, the battery usage was 11% which is very similar.

            My device is an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

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            Flat Twin Therapy
            wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 21:22 last edited by
            #18

            @Corjan-Meijerink
            Indeed that sounds acceptable! I don't mind the battery use when not charging. But when charging there should still be a positive charge, else the risk of running out of battery during a ride is too high. That should not be the case, right?

            Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
            https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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              14 Feb 2023, 21:22

              @Corjan-Meijerink
              Indeed that sounds acceptable! I don't mind the battery use when not charging. But when charging there should still be a positive charge, else the risk of running out of battery during a ride is too high. That should not be the case, right?

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              Corjan Meijerink
              administrator
              wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 21:58 last edited by
              #19

              @Rolf-Aalders That indeed really should not be the case!

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                14 Feb 2023, 21:58

                @Rolf-Aalders That indeed really should not be the case!

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                infoevertkuiken.nl
                wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 22:36 last edited by
                #20

                @Corjan-Meijerink here my battery usage today. Used MRA between 7:30 and 9 and 4:30 and 6. My battery doesn’t like cold weather and this morning was ccccolddd (1 degree Celsius and fog). I think this is ok. My phone (iPhone 7) is always on the charger when driving. I do have background location set to “when using app” because I noticed several crashes when not even using MRA and quite some battery usage. 497DC53A-C653-4462-8CA4-303DD2ABD150.png

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                  14 Feb 2023, 22:36

                  @Corjan-Meijerink here my battery usage today. Used MRA between 7:30 and 9 and 4:30 and 6. My battery doesn’t like cold weather and this morning was ccccolddd (1 degree Celsius and fog). I think this is ok. My phone (iPhone 7) is always on the charger when driving. I do have background location set to “when using app” because I noticed several crashes when not even using MRA and quite some battery usage. 497DC53A-C653-4462-8CA4-303DD2ABD150.png

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                  Corjan Meijerink
                  administrator
                  wrote on 14 Feb 2023, 22:58 last edited by
                  #21

                  @Evert-Kuiken This is fine indeed!

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                    Jure Sirena 0
                    wrote on 15 Feb 2023, 05:50 last edited by
                    #22

                    Yesterday I did cca 150km in car with charger. Battery stayed on same level. Didnt fall but didnt charge also. Improvement from last version, however charger is still mandatory

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                    • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                      14 Feb 2023, 21:58

                      @Rolf-Aalders That indeed really should not be the case!

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                      Flat Twin Therapy
                      wrote on 28 Feb 2023, 18:29 last edited by
                      #23

                      @Corjan-Meijerink Any progress on this topic? 🤞 🤞 🤞

                      Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                      https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                        28 Feb 2023, 18:29

                        @Corjan-Meijerink Any progress on this topic? 🤞 🤞 🤞

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                        Corjan Meijerink
                        administrator
                        wrote on 28 Feb 2023, 18:34 last edited by
                        #24

                        @Rolf-Aalders Not really! See the changelog for the new update: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/3392/new-beta-v3-2-9

                        This is the last known real critical issue 🙂

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                          28 Feb 2023, 18:34

                          @Rolf-Aalders Not really! See the changelog for the new update: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/3392/new-beta-v3-2-9

                          This is the last known real critical issue 🙂

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                          Flat Twin Therapy
                          wrote on 4 Mar 2023, 12:13 last edited by
                          #25

                          @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for pointing me to that post!

                          Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                          https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                            4 Mar 2023, 12:13

                            @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for pointing me to that post!

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                            Maarten v
                            wrote on 4 Mar 2023, 16:41 last edited by
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                            @Rolf-Aalders Today riding with the MyRoute-app,battery was 88% and my iPhone 13 mini in the usb socket for voltage…….2 hours later the battery was 35% procent and still dropping…. So with the Navigation on the battery is draining verg fast even in usb socket . Than i turned Navigation off and close the app and battery was in 1,5 hour back at 80 % …..my conclusion that i can,t use the app because of battery drainage…..

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                              4 Mar 2023, 16:41

                              @Rolf-Aalders Today riding with the MyRoute-app,battery was 88% and my iPhone 13 mini in the usb socket for voltage…….2 hours later the battery was 35% procent and still dropping…. So with the Navigation on the battery is draining verg fast even in usb socket . Than i turned Navigation off and close the app and battery was in 1,5 hour back at 80 % …..my conclusion that i can,t use the app because of battery drainage…..

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                              Maarten v
                              wrote on 4 Mar 2023, 16:45 last edited by
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                              @Maarten-v . I use the version 3.2.9-154

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                                4 Mar 2023, 16:41

                                @Rolf-Aalders Today riding with the MyRoute-app,battery was 88% and my iPhone 13 mini in the usb socket for voltage…….2 hours later the battery was 35% procent and still dropping…. So with the Navigation on the battery is draining verg fast even in usb socket . Than i turned Navigation off and close the app and battery was in 1,5 hour back at 80 % …..my conclusion that i can,t use the app because of battery drainage…..

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                                Flat Twin Therapy
                                wrote on 19 Mar 2023, 12:55 last edited by Flat Twin Therapy
                                #28

                                @Maarten-v
                                I have indeed the same. I cannot use navigation because of the battery drain...

                                To be honest... Battery drain.. + the Android app just crashes very, very (very!) often, of which I cannot recover safely due to gloves on, while riding motorcycle...

                                This makes the app actually useless... ;( ;(
                                I'm only using it for trips I already know, to test if these 2 issues are solved yet, so that I can actually start using it.

                                @Corjan-Meijerink any updates on the battery drain and the crashes (android)? Is there perhaps anything that I can help? Perhaps sharing logsfiles, if that is possible?

                                Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                                https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                                  19 Mar 2023, 12:55

                                  @Maarten-v
                                  I have indeed the same. I cannot use navigation because of the battery drain...

                                  To be honest... Battery drain.. + the Android app just crashes very, very (very!) often, of which I cannot recover safely due to gloves on, while riding motorcycle...

                                  This makes the app actually useless... ;( ;(
                                  I'm only using it for trips I already know, to test if these 2 issues are solved yet, so that I can actually start using it.

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink any updates on the battery drain and the crashes (android)? Is there perhaps anything that I can help? Perhaps sharing logsfiles, if that is possible?

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                                  administrator
                                  wrote on 19 Mar 2023, 13:29 last edited by
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                                  @Rolf-Aalders both will be more intensively investigated after the CarPlay update

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                                    Jure Sirena 0
                                    wrote on 20 Mar 2023, 05:36 last edited by
                                    #30

                                    We are all reporting same issue to guys they know it. We have to stop using app to save battery even if charged. What is interesting (at least what I’ve noticed) that almost all reported issues are on iphone 13….mine is iphone 13 pro, ios 16.3.1

                                    Just an observation

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                                      Jörgen
                                      Instructor
                                      wrote on 20 Mar 2023, 08:10 last edited by
                                      #31

                                      No, also noticed with iPhone X.
                                      The little 12-5Volt converter plug does not supply enough power to compensate for the consumption, the iPhone was empty after 1 hour (start at 45% battery charge).
                                      But because this is known, I'm sure it will be solved soon. 👍

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                                        Nick Carthew
                                        RouteXperts Instructor
                                        wrote on 20 Mar 2023, 17:56 last edited by
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                                        I will add my findings to this debate. Yesterday I used the app to navigate and track a route of about 120 miles. I stopped several times and paused the tracking. The original route was 66 miles and when I reached the destination I chose to edit the route and I added several route points to take me back home. The first of these new route points was RP7 so when I opened the newly edited route I gave a long press on RP7 to set as the start point. Everything worked perfectly as it should have.
                                        My phone is an iPhone 11 and it's mounted on a Quadlock handlebar mount. I had it plugged into a 12v supply via a usb cable. My phone had about 80% battery when I started and when I got home the battery was at 100%. I also noticed that there was no significant heat despite the phone being within the Quadlock case. I had no other apps open while navigating.

                                        Always willing to help if I can.
                                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
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                                          wrote on 22 Mar 2023, 16:49 last edited by
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                                          I also find battery usage to be excessive - Older Samsung Galaxy S7 - MRA Mobile Next app 3.2.9. Battery usage was so bad during one hour of navigating I had to stop it. The phone was connected for fast charging. The phone was hot. I'm hoping that once I can download maps to my SD Card and run offline that battery usage will be significantly reduced. That is how I currently run with MRA Navigation - GPS and WIFI only. No cellular service.

                                          2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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