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  • John S Parryundefined Online
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    One of the great motorcycle roads in the mountains outside of Los Angeles (CA-2) is now open after 4+ years of being closed due to storm damage. I'm trying to build a route including CA-2, but MRA won't let me because HERE thinks there is a section that is closed.

    MRA (to my knowledge) doesn't have an option for ignoring closed roads. I suspect the answer will be "we can't override HERE", but I don't have a problem in Garmin Basecamp (also completely HERE based). With climate change and the increasing occurrences of natural disasters, road availability can change in a moment. There needs to be an option for ignoring closed roads when it's known that a road is actually open or will be soon for the purposes of planning.

    This is a showstopper for me. Please advise.

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    • John S Parryundefined John S Parry

      One of the great motorcycle roads in the mountains outside of Los Angeles (CA-2) is now open after 4+ years of being closed due to storm damage. I'm trying to build a route including CA-2, but MRA won't let me because HERE thinks there is a section that is closed.

      MRA (to my knowledge) doesn't have an option for ignoring closed roads. I suspect the answer will be "we can't override HERE", but I don't have a problem in Garmin Basecamp (also completely HERE based). With climate change and the increasing occurrences of natural disasters, road availability can change in a moment. There needs to be an option for ignoring closed roads when it's known that a road is actually open or will be soon for the purposes of planning.

      This is a showstopper for me. Please advise.

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      @John-S-Parry try enabling "Disable Seasonal Closures"
      89e24e55-b836-4a8c-b1fb-40d0ac32259d-image.png
      there is a bit of a discusion about the functionality here

      BlackView BV7100, Android 12
      Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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      • John S Parryundefined Online
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        I have the disable seasonal closure checked. The problem is that it’s marked as a closed road, which is a different category that seasonally closed.

        In short, it doesn’t apply.

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          @John-S-Parry try enabling "Disable Seasonal Closures"
          89e24e55-b836-4a8c-b1fb-40d0ac32259d-image.png
          there is a bit of a discusion about the functionality here

          Brian McGundefined Offline
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          Sorry @John-S-Parry I am guessing the part of CA-2 your referring to is between Cedar Springs & Big Pines
          c6075e2f-0e4d-4d04-a767-e7b50b3a6400-image.png
          The "Disable Seasonal Closure" does not seem to work for this closure, probably because rather than a closure Here have designated that route as under construction going by the dashed line on the map, so it really is a Here issue & the correct resolution is for Here to update their map

          My only other sugestion would be to plan it with the OpenStreetMap or TomTom routing as these seem to route okay
          If Here dont update the map before your trip you can try navigating the route as a Track with MRA
          You would probably need to do this in Offline mode to prevent any recalculations deviating you off the track & stopping you from riding the road under construction, you would loose acces to traffic updates
          1513fc80-6e2f-4bb2-a5f7-c4563e60a93a-image.png

          It is a work around but if the Here base map does not allow you to route through an area there is not a lot MRA can do, the "override" is to use a different routing map

          BlackView BV7100, Android 12
          Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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            John S Parry
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            Thanks Brian. I appreciate your input.

            Yes, you got the section of CA-2 that had been closed absolutely correct:

            Screenshot (185).png

            It's a been a long-term closure due to difficult road repairs. That's why it shows as closed in HERE. Well, it's open now. With the track record of HERE, it could be weeks before they update their map to a "road open" status. It's easy just to blame HERE, but how does Basecamp (which is also HERE based) allow routing closed roads? I also use an Apple based navigation planner called inRoute, and they have an explicit setting option called "Ignore Closed Roads", allowing you to route through them for whatever reason you have. Of course it's a buyer beware kind of setting, but the reality is that Google Maps is the gold standard and your best friend for up-to-date road status into, which is why I use it for final validation regardless of route planner I'm using.

            If nothing changes, my options are to either use Basecamp or inRoute as an alternative to create the route I need. I'd rather not play gymnastics with MRA and have to work around it. If this is simply a wart we have to live with, I'd just like to know.

            On Edit: I tried both TomTom and OpenStreetMap views as a workaround. I can place a waypoint in the closed section, but MRA won't create a route line to it.

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