Here Maps not Recognizing Road is now Open
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One of the great motorcycle roads in the mountains outside of Los Angeles (CA-2) is now open after 4+ years of being closed due to storm damage. I'm trying to build a route including CA-2, but MRA won't let me because HERE thinks there is a section that is closed.
MRA (to my knowledge) doesn't have an option for ignoring closed roads. I suspect the answer will be "we can't override HERE", but I don't have a problem in Garmin Basecamp (also completely HERE based). With climate change and the increasing occurrences of natural disasters, road availability can change in a moment. There needs to be an option for ignoring closed roads when it's known that a road is actually open or will be soon for the purposes of planning.
This is a showstopper for me. Please advise.
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One of the great motorcycle roads in the mountains outside of Los Angeles (CA-2) is now open after 4+ years of being closed due to storm damage. I'm trying to build a route including CA-2, but MRA won't let me because HERE thinks there is a section that is closed.
MRA (to my knowledge) doesn't have an option for ignoring closed roads. I suspect the answer will be "we can't override HERE", but I don't have a problem in Garmin Basecamp (also completely HERE based). With climate change and the increasing occurrences of natural disasters, road availability can change in a moment. There needs to be an option for ignoring closed roads when it's known that a road is actually open or will be soon for the purposes of planning.
This is a showstopper for me. Please advise.
@John-S-Parry try enabling "Disable Seasonal Closures"
there is a bit of a discusion about the functionality hereBlackView BV7100, Android 12
Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps -
I have the disable seasonal closure checked. The problem is that it’s marked as a closed road, which is a different category that seasonally closed.
In short, it doesn’t apply.
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@John-S-Parry try enabling "Disable Seasonal Closures"
there is a bit of a discusion about the functionality hereSorry @John-S-Parry I am guessing the part of CA-2 your referring to is between Cedar Springs & Big Pines
The "Disable Seasonal Closure" does not seem to work for this closure, probably because rather than a closure Here have designated that route as under construction going by the dashed line on the map, so it really is a Here issue & the correct resolution is for Here to update their mapMy only other sugestion would be to plan it with the OpenStreetMap or TomTom routing as these seem to route okay
If Here dont update the map before your trip you can try navigating the route as a Track with MRA
You would probably need to do this in Offline mode to prevent any recalculations deviating you off the track & stopping you from riding the road under construction, you would loose acces to traffic updates
It is a work around but if the Here base map does not allow you to route through an area there is not a lot MRA can do, the "override" is to use a different routing map
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Thanks Brian. I appreciate your input.
Yes, you got the section of CA-2 that had been closed absolutely correct:
It's a been a long-term closure due to difficult road repairs. That's why it shows as closed in HERE. Well, it's open now. With the track record of HERE, it could be weeks before they update their map to a "road open" status. It's easy just to blame HERE, but how does Basecamp (which is also HERE based) allow routing closed roads? I also use an Apple based navigation planner called inRoute, and they have an explicit setting option called "Ignore Closed Roads", allowing you to route through them for whatever reason you have. Of course it's a buyer beware kind of setting, but the reality is that Google Maps is the gold standard and your best friend for up-to-date road status into, which is why I use it for final validation regardless of route planner I'm using.
If nothing changes, my options are to either use Basecamp or inRoute as an alternative to create the route I need. I'd rather not play gymnastics with MRA and have to work around it. If this is simply a wart we have to live with, I'd just like to know.
On Edit: I tried both TomTom and OpenStreetMap views as a workaround. I can place a waypoint in the closed section, but MRA won't create a route line to it.
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I agree, having an option to ignore road closures would be a big help in this situation.
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You can put a request an here if the road is open.
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In the meantime you can use this workaround: Change the section between WP 3 and 4 to offroad.
Here the route:
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/12044754?mode=shareKindly regards
ReinhardZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac
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In the meantime you can use this workaround: Change the section between WP 3 and 4 to offroad.
Here the route:
https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/12044754?mode=share@Reinhard-32 Thanks. I appreciate the effort you put into this.
I did a search and was able to find how to use the technique. I'm not sure how this would look after import into a Garmin GPS, especially if the skip section has intended route deviations within it. It's clearly a workaround as opposed to a clean solution, but....
Regardless, I'll play with it.
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@Reinhard-32 Thanks. I appreciate the effort you put into this.
I did a search and was able to find how to use the technique. I'm not sure how this would look after import into a Garmin GPS, especially if the skip section has intended route deviations within it. It's clearly a workaround as opposed to a clean solution, but....
Regardless, I'll play with it.
@John-S-Parry I think the best option is to report it to HERE using the website that @ErikMatthezing shared above. The more often it is reported the more chance there is of a map update. He who shouts loudest
I have just reported the re-opening of The Angels Crest Highway.
