Future Developments
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I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the facts@Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Future Developments:
I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the factsAgree on Sygic, a map made on MRA (market leader for route design IMO) will not function with Sygic (or any other AA app in my experience?) as it only works A to B, what I'm keen for is this type of interface (you can include Calimoto's as well) but using the functionality of MRA Navigation. Calimoto for example works with Apple on Carplay but again not AA. Assume AA coding is somewhat more complex or restrictive vs Apple? I'm not overly criticising MRA on their design but it could be improved upon IMO.
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@Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Future Developments:
I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the factsAgree on Sygic, a map made on MRA (market leader for route design IMO) will not function with Sygic (or any other AA app in my experience?) as it only works A to B, what I'm keen for is this type of interface (you can include Calimoto's as well) but using the functionality of MRA Navigation. Calimoto for example works with Apple on Carplay but again not AA. Assume AA coding is somewhat more complex or restrictive vs Apple? I'm not overly criticising MRA on their design but it could be improved upon IMO.
@Andrew-Dickerson again I'm nog shure because I have no knowledge of Calimoto. But if that is working on iOS it must have the same traditions due to Apple and its protecting their brand
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How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?@Koen-Keevel said in Future Developments:
How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?
From my point of view, Sygic is the best when it comes to Android Auto or CarPlay.
In the last version they have added Routes support, i tried exporting a route from MRA and loading it in Sygic and it works without any issues.
It displays advences lane guidance and next 3 fueling stations (you can actually click on the AA screen on a POI or a gas station and add it as a waypoint!)
You can also report traffic problems, and traffic congestions are better displayed than the on Google Maps...
So this is just an example of how many things can be implemented on Android Auto/CarPlay ...
Lets not blame Google and Apple !
Best regards,
AdrianSamsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play -
Its like we don't have speed limit when not following a route, or a simple record function in CarPlay.
I would guess fairly simple stuff but over a year since requesting, its this that really puts me off MRA as my full time app.
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Adrian, that's interesting you're running routes ok with Sygic. What I have noticed with some older MRA routes I'd created was no waypoints on the download/Sygic upload yet new routes are pulling through (assume there must be a change with MRA programming data at some point?) Have you tried say a figure of 8 type route starting and finishing from your house - this is one type scenario I can't get to work - also is that the Motorcycle addon you're running with Sygic?
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Adrian, that's interesting you're running routes ok with Sygic. What I have noticed with some older MRA routes I'd created was no waypoints on the download/Sygic upload yet new routes are pulling through (assume there must be a change with MRA programming data at some point?) Have you tried say a figure of 8 type route starting and finishing from your house - this is one type scenario I can't get to work - also is that the Motorcycle addon you're running with Sygic?
@Andrew-Dickerson Yes, I’ve tried running routes on Sygic using Android Auto on my motorcycle with the Chigee AIO-5, and it worked flawlessly. I'm not sure how well it handles figure-eight-style routes, but in general, the app performs perfectly. I really like it for all the features it offers through Android Auto.
That said, my personal favorite is still OsmAnd—it brought me back safely from my Swiss Alps tour, and its full feature pack is hard to beat. -
@Andrew-Dickerson it all depends on Google and Apple. When they finaly give in, things could change. As long as they are in charge, nothing will happen
@Marinus-van-Deudekom that's not entirely true.
Yes, they have restrictions but that's not the whole truth
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We are still also working on the Android Auto stability.
Obviously, it's also where to focus your energy.Android Auto needs to function better and we are working on that.
Some things are just hard to fix / reproduce given the wide range of devices (being both the Android phone and the Android Auto device).The list of MRA features on Android Auto is indeed rather limited but works extremely nice if you still have your phone somewhere. We do intend to expand the features directly on Android Auto.
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How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?@Koen-Keevel said in Future Developments:
How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?
They don't, that's what @Andrew-Dickerson sais in hos OP:
@Andrew-Dickerson said in Future Developments:
Sygic for example offer a much better interface (maps/smoother auto zoom etc) but does not work on a route where you're starting and finishing from home with route cross overs etc as it always finds the most direct route.
Apps that only do A2B direct route are SO much simpler in their GUI. It is where waypoints come in where it gets complicated, and we all want all kinds of tools added to the GUI.
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@Guzzist said in Future Developments:
AA devices aren't navigation devices
So home come I did a 4000km trip with one ?
The device is not the issue here !!
How come Maps, Waze, TomTom, Osmand, Sygic works ... ?
No need for a dedicated android device when you can run the apps from your pocket, only if the app you are running has issues on AA ....@Adrian-Avram said in Future Developments:
Maps, Waze, TomTom, Osmand, Sygic works ... ?
Because they don't do multiple waypoint routes. It's that simple.
Not sure about Osmand though, but I am sure also Osmand has restrictions in it's aa/CP GUI. -
@Koen-Keevel said in Future Developments:
How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?
From my point of view, Sygic is the best when it comes to Android Auto or CarPlay.
In the last version they have added Routes support, i tried exporting a route from MRA and loading it in Sygic and it works without any issues.
It displays advences lane guidance and next 3 fueling stations (you can actually click on the AA screen on a POI or a gas station and add it as a waypoint!)
You can also report traffic problems, and traffic congestions are better displayed than the on Google Maps...
So this is just an example of how many things can be implemented on Android Auto/CarPlay ...
Lets not blame Google and Apple !@Adrian-Avram, In your pictures I see a lot of functions missing... Zoom? Skipping waypoints? I will admit Sygic looks nice, but they have a hell of a large advantage to MRA development-time-wise...
