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  • Koen Keevelundefined Koen Keevel

    @Marinus-van-Deudekom
    How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?

    Adrian Avramundefined Offline
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    #4

    @Koen-Keevel said in Future Developments:

    How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?

    I agree ! I also have Sygic installed, and it even shows a picture of the lane you are to follow when leaving the highway, directly on Android Auto.
    So to blame Google and Apple is just an excuse from my point of view. A lot of good things can added ....

    Best regards,
    Adrian

    Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
    MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
    Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
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      Marinus van Deudekom
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      #5

      I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
      Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the facts

      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
      Honda Silverwing GL 650
      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      • Guzzistundefined Offline
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        Guzzist
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        #6

        please don't kill me - but its's my conviction after many painful experiences:
        If you want to navigate - take a navigation device!
        AA devices aren't navigation devices. But things like T865-X are.

        Nothing is impossible ;-)
        In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
        In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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        • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

          please don't kill me - but its's my conviction after many painful experiences:
          If you want to navigate - take a navigation device!
          AA devices aren't navigation devices. But things like T865-X are.

          Adrian Avramundefined Offline
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          Adrian Avram
          wrote last edited by Adrian Avram
          #7

          @Guzzist said in Future Developments:

          AA devices aren't navigation devices

          So home come I did a 4000km trip with one ? 😀 😀 😀
          The device is not the issue here !!
          How come Maps, Waze, TomTom, Osmand, Sygic works ... ?
          No need for a dedicated android device when you can run the apps from your pocket, only if the app you are running has issues on AA ....

          Best regards,
          Adrian

          Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
          MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
          Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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          • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
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            Marinus van Deudekom
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            wrote last edited by Marinus van Deudekom
            #8

            If AA works for you that’s ok

            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
            Honda Silverwing GL 650
            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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            • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

              please don't kill me - but its's my conviction after many painful experiences:
              If you want to navigate - take a navigation device!
              AA devices aren't navigation devices. But things like T865-X are.

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              EMW-motorridders
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              @Guzzist

              My iPhones 12 Pro Pro max and recent iPhone 12 min ( ( refurbished 200€ ) are very good devices to navigate with myRouteApp ( 5G and fast )
              For Android,I use a Carpe Iter v4C 7" ( also very good navigate with myRouteApp )
              For only offroad of dirty roads I use a Zümo XT2 in track-modus

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              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
                Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the facts

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                Andrew Dickerson
                wrote last edited by
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                @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Future Developments:

                I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
                Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the facts

                Agree on Sygic, a map made on MRA (market leader for route design IMO) will not function with Sygic (or any other AA app in my experience?) as it only works A to B, what I'm keen for is this type of interface (you can include Calimoto's as well) but using the functionality of MRA Navigation. Calimoto for example works with Apple on Carplay but again not AA. Assume AA coding is somewhat more complex or restrictive vs Apple? I'm not overly criticising MRA on their design but it could be improved upon IMO.

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                • Andrew Dickersonundefined Andrew Dickerson

                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Future Developments:

                  I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
                  Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the facts

                  Agree on Sygic, a map made on MRA (market leader for route design IMO) will not function with Sygic (or any other AA app in my experience?) as it only works A to B, what I'm keen for is this type of interface (you can include Calimoto's as well) but using the functionality of MRA Navigation. Calimoto for example works with Apple on Carplay but again not AA. Assume AA coding is somewhat more complex or restrictive vs Apple? I'm not overly criticising MRA on their design but it could be improved upon IMO.

                  Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
                  Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
                  Marinus van Deudekom
                  Valued contributor
                  wrote last edited by
                  #11

                  @Andrew-Dickerson again I'm nog shure because I have no knowledge of Calimoto. But if that is working on iOS it must have the same traditions due to Apple and its protecting their brand

                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                  Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                  Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                  • Koen Keevelundefined Koen Keevel

                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom
                    How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?

                    Adrian Avramundefined Offline
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                    Adrian Avram
                    wrote last edited by Adrian Avram
                    #12

                    @Koen-Keevel said in Future Developments:

                    How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?

                    From my point of view, Sygic is the best when it comes to Android Auto or CarPlay.
                    In the last version they have added Routes support, i tried exporting a route from MRA and loading it in Sygic and it works without any issues.
                    It displays advences lane guidance and next 3 fueling stations (you can actually click on the AA screen on a POI or a gas station and add it as a waypoint!)
                    You can also report traffic problems, and traffic congestions are better displayed than the on Google Maps...
                    So this is just an example of how many things can be implemented on Android Auto/CarPlay ...
                    Lets not blame Google and Apple !

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                    Best regards,
                    Adrian

                    Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                    MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                    Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                    • HighPeakRiderundefined Offline
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                      Its like we don't have speed limit when not following a route, or a simple record function in CarPlay.

                      I would guess fairly simple stuff but over a year since requesting, its this that really puts me off MRA as my full time app.

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                      • Andrew Dickersonundefined Offline
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                        Adrian, that's interesting you're running routes ok with Sygic. What I have noticed with some older MRA routes I'd created was no waypoints on the download/Sygic upload yet new routes are pulling through (assume there must be a change with MRA programming data at some point?) Have you tried say a figure of 8 type route starting and finishing from your house - this is one type scenario I can't get to work - also is that the Motorcycle addon you're running with Sygic?

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                        • Andrew Dickersonundefined Andrew Dickerson

                          Adrian, that's interesting you're running routes ok with Sygic. What I have noticed with some older MRA routes I'd created was no waypoints on the download/Sygic upload yet new routes are pulling through (assume there must be a change with MRA programming data at some point?) Have you tried say a figure of 8 type route starting and finishing from your house - this is one type scenario I can't get to work - also is that the Motorcycle addon you're running with Sygic?

                          Adrian Avramundefined Offline
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                          @Andrew-Dickerson Yes, I’ve tried running routes on Sygic using Android Auto on my motorcycle with the Chigee AIO-5, and it worked flawlessly. I'm not sure how well it handles figure-eight-style routes, but in general, the app performs perfectly. I really like it for all the features it offers through Android Auto.
                          That said, my personal favorite is still OsmAnd—it brought me back safely from my Swiss Alps tour, and its full feature pack is hard to beat.

                          Best regards,
                          Adrian

                          Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                          MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                          Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                          • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                            @Andrew-Dickerson it all depends on Google and Apple. When they finaly give in, things could change. As long as they are in charge, nothing will happen

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                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom that's not entirely true.
                            Yes, they have restrictions but that's not the whole truth 🙂

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                              We are still also working on the Android Auto stability.
                              Obviously, it's also where to focus your energy.

                              Android Auto needs to function better and we are working on that.
                              Some things are just hard to fix / reproduce given the wide range of devices (being both the Android phone and the Android Auto device).

                              The list of MRA features on Android Auto is indeed rather limited but works extremely nice if you still have your phone somewhere. We do intend to expand the features directly on Android Auto.

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