Future Developments

[Adrian Avram]

@Koen-Keevel said in Future Developments:

How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?

I agree ! I also have Sygic installed, and it even shows a picture of the lane you are to follow when leaving the highway, directly on Android Auto.
So to blame Google and Apple is just an excuse from my point of view. A lot of good things can added ....

[Marinus van Deudekom]

I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the facts

[Guzzist]

please don't kill me - but its's my conviction after many painful experiences:
If you want to navigate - take a navigation device!
AA devices aren't navigation devices. But things like T865-X are.

[Adrian Avram]

@Guzzist said in Future Developments:

AA devices aren't navigation devices

So home come I did a 4000km trip with one ?
The device is not the issue here !!
How come Maps, Waze, TomTom, Osmand, Sygic works ... ?
No need for a dedicated android device when you can run the apps from your pocket, only if the app you are running has issues on AA ....

[Marinus van Deudekom]

If AA works for you that’s ok

[EMW-motorridders]

@Guzzist

My iPhones 12 Pro Pro max and recent iPhone 12 min ( ( refurbished 200€ ) are very good devices to navigate with myRouteApp ( 5G and fast )
For Android,I use a Carpe Iter v4C 7" ( also very good navigate with myRouteApp )
For only offroad of dirty roads I use a Zümo XT2 in track-modus

[Andrew Dickerson]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Future Developments:

I don’t use Sygic myself. Just did a small Peek at there website. As far as I understand there route guidance does not cover a route like made with MRA, just simple A B driving. If you to compare it with that, be my guest. My €900 T865X covers it all but that’s a real navigation device.
Not complaining about Google and Apple just stating the facts

Agree on Sygic, a map made on MRA (market leader for route design IMO) will not function with Sygic (or any other AA app in my experience?) as it only works A to B, what I'm keen for is this type of interface (you can include Calimoto's as well) but using the functionality of MRA Navigation. Calimoto for example works with Apple on Carplay but again not AA. Assume AA coding is somewhat more complex or restrictive vs Apple? I'm not overly criticising MRA on their design but it could be improved upon IMO.

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@Andrew-Dickerson again I'm nog shure because I have no knowledge of Calimoto. But if that is working on iOS it must have the same traditions due to Apple and its protecting their brand

[Adrian Avram]

@Koen-Keevel said in Future Developments:

How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?

From my point of view, Sygic is the best when it comes to Android Auto or CarPlay.
In the last version they have added Routes support, i tried exporting a route from MRA and loading it in Sygic and it works without any issues.
It displays advences lane guidance and next 3 fueling stations (you can actually click on the AA screen on a POI or a gas station and add it as a waypoint!)
You can also report traffic problems, and traffic congestions are better displayed than the on Google Maps...
So this is just an example of how many things can be implemented on Android Auto/CarPlay ...
Lets not blame Google and Apple !

[HighPeakRider]

Its like we don't have speed limit when not following a route, or a simple record function in CarPlay.

I would guess fairly simple stuff but over a year since requesting, its this that really puts me off MRA as my full time app.

[Andrew Dickerson]

Adrian, that's interesting you're running routes ok with Sygic. What I have noticed with some older MRA routes I'd created was no waypoints on the download/Sygic upload yet new routes are pulling through (assume there must be a change with MRA programming data at some point?) Have you tried say a figure of 8 type route starting and finishing from your house - this is one type scenario I can't get to work - also is that the Motorcycle addon you're running with Sygic?

[Adrian Avram]

@Andrew-Dickerson Yes, I’ve tried running routes on Sygic using Android Auto on my motorcycle with the Chigee AIO-5, and it worked flawlessly. I'm not sure how well it handles figure-eight-style routes, but in general, the app performs perfectly. I really like it for all the features it offers through Android Auto.
That said, my personal favorite is still OsmAnd—it brought me back safely from my Swiss Alps tour, and its full feature pack is hard to beat.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom that's not entirely true.
Yes, they have restrictions but that's not the whole truth

[Corjan Meijerink]

We are still also working on the Android Auto stability.
Obviously, it's also where to focus your energy.

Android Auto needs to function better and we are working on that.
Some things are just hard to fix / reproduce given the wide range of devices (being both the Android phone and the Android Auto device).

The list of MRA features on Android Auto is indeed rather limited but works extremely nice if you still have your phone somewhere. We do intend to expand the features directly on Android Auto.

[Con Hennekens]

@Koen-Keevel said in Future Developments:

How come Sygic (and others ans Andrew mentioned) manage to do this even though Apple and Google are in charge?

They don't, that's what @Andrew-Dickerson sais in hos OP:

@Andrew-Dickerson said in Future Developments:

Sygic for example offer a much better interface (maps/smoother auto zoom etc) but does not work on a route where you're starting and finishing from home with route cross overs etc as it always finds the most direct route.

Apps that only do A2B direct route are SO much simpler in their GUI. It is where waypoints come in where it gets complicated, and we all want all kinds of tools added to the GUI.

[Con Hennekens]

@Adrian-Avram said in Future Developments:

Maps, Waze, TomTom, Osmand, Sygic works ... ?

Because they don't do multiple waypoint routes. It's that simple.
Not sure about Osmand though, but I am sure also Osmand has restrictions in it's aa/CP GUI.

[Con Hennekens]

@Adrian-Avram, In your pictures I see a lot of functions missing... Zoom? Skipping waypoints? I will admit Sygic looks nice, but they have a hell of a large advantage to MRA development-time-wise...

[Adrian Avram]

@Con-Hennekens said in Future Developments:

Because they don't do multiple waypoint routes. It's that simple.
Not sure about Osmand though, but I am sure also Osmand has restrictions in it's aa/CP GUI.

You are not limited to the number of waypoints in Osmand nor Sygic !

[Adrian Avram]

@Con-Hennekens said in Future Developments:

In your pictures I see a lot of functions missing... Zoom? Skipping waypoints?

They are there, if I press once on the screen the buttons appear (just like on MRA-Android), also it works super easy by pinching the screen in or out, switching from 2D to 3D with gliding 2 fingers, just like on the phone !
Skipping waypoints its easier (you also have the icon of the point you can skip and also receive a visual of the point and a red button to skipp it !

[Adrian Avram]

@Con-Hennekens said in Future Developments:

In your pictures I see a lot of functions missing... Zoom? Skipping waypoints?

How about these functions ?
Zoom buttons and 2D/3D buttons ?

Traffic delay (information from Waze)

Add waypoint directly from Android Auto screen (Also has the address of the waypoint and gas price, in this case being a gas station !)

Waypoint skipping (removing waypoint)

So I would say there are many things that can be implemented on Android Auto/CarPlay, lets not put the blame on Google/Apple ....