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  • Adrian Avramundefined Offline
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    Adrian Avram
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    Hi !
    In just 29 days I leave from Romania to the Swiss Alps and I am wondering how does MRA behave in tunnels (and I have to pass a lot in Austria) ?
    I want to use the track record function as well, and I was wondering if it works well trough long tunnels, where there is no GPS signal ?
    Thanks !

    Best regards,
    Adrian

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    • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

      Hi !
      In just 29 days I leave from Romania to the Swiss Alps and I am wondering how does MRA behave in tunnels (and I have to pass a lot in Austria) ?
      I want to use the track record function as well, and I was wondering if it works well trough long tunnels, where there is no GPS signal ?
      Thanks !

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      Nick Carthew
      RouteXpert
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      @Adrian-Avram I would for obvious reasons avoid positioning route points inside a tunnel and I would also avoid positioning them too close to the exit of a tunnel, the app will need to wake up and get a fix on the satellites again. As the tracking works from the GPS signal, I suspect that you'll see straight lines for the tunnels.

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      • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Offline
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        Herman Veldhuizen
        wrote last edited by Herman Veldhuizen
        #3

        mra recovers after leaving the tunnel, but inside the tunnel it behaves chaotic. it sometimes thinks that you are driving backwards, recalculates accordingly , severely effecting the ETA info.
        I have a video showing it if you are interested.
        Tomtom behaves better, i guess it assumes that you drive at constant speed and moves the cursor accordingly.

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        • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Herman Veldhuizen

          mra recovers after leaving the tunnel, but inside the tunnel it behaves chaotic. it sometimes thinks that you are driving backwards, recalculates accordingly , severely effecting the ETA info.
          I have a video showing it if you are interested.
          Tomtom behaves better, i guess it assumes that you drive at constant speed and moves the cursor accordingly.

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          @Herman-Veldhuizen yes, can you put a link to the video here ?
          Thanks !

          Best regards,
          Adrian

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          • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

            @Herman-Veldhuizen yes, can you put a link to the video here ?
            Thanks !

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            Herman Veldhuizen
            wrote last edited by Herman Veldhuizen
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            @Adrian-Avram
            https://drive.google.com/file/d/16xe9XEVUoiZR06ej2_fCkQGDLABxxj3Y/view?usp=drivesdk

            The tunnel starts 1min and 25sec into the video.

            Route:
            https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/10876313

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            • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Herman Veldhuizen

              mra recovers after leaving the tunnel, but inside the tunnel it behaves chaotic. it sometimes thinks that you are driving backwards, recalculates accordingly , severely effecting the ETA info.
              I have a video showing it if you are interested.
              Tomtom behaves better, i guess it assumes that you drive at constant speed and moves the cursor accordingly.

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              Makro
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @Herman-Veldhuizen said in MRA and tunnels:

              mra recovers after leaving the tunnel, but inside the tunnel it behaves chaotic.

              I experienced the same in a Stockholm tunnel recently. It was a bad experience, because I had to take an in-tunnel exit, and since the map didn't keep updating my assumed position, it was hard to know which exit to take.

              So Adrian, you need to look carefully at the map prior to entering a tunnel, so you know if you have to take an in-tunnel exit.

              Best regards, Makro

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              • Makroundefined Makro

                @Herman-Veldhuizen said in MRA and tunnels:

                mra recovers after leaving the tunnel, but inside the tunnel it behaves chaotic.

                I experienced the same in a Stockholm tunnel recently. It was a bad experience, because I had to take an in-tunnel exit, and since the map didn't keep updating my assumed position, it was hard to know which exit to take.

                So Adrian, you need to look carefully at the map prior to entering a tunnel, so you know if you have to take an in-tunnel exit.

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                Adrian Avram
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                @Makro thats what I am afraid of. Thank you for the advice !

                Best regards,
                Adrian

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                  Swiss Alps? Don't forget to disable roaming on your telephone. When not, you're in for a surprise when you will receive your telephone bill.

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                  • Guztundefined Guzt

                    Swiss Alps? Don't forget to disable roaming on your telephone. When not, you're in for a surprise when you will receive your telephone bill.

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                    Rob Verhoeff
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                    @Guzt said in MRA and tunnels:

                    Don't forget to disable roaming on your telephone.

                    That entirely depends on what kind of data cap you have with your provider! I don't worry at all 😉

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                    • Guztundefined Guzt

                      Swiss Alps? Don't forget to disable roaming on your telephone. When not, you're in for a surprise when you will receive your telephone bill.

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                      @Guzt I had forgotten completely about this aspect ... Thank you for reminding me !!

                      Best regards,
                      Adrian

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                        Does offline navigation not solve this issue? Or are you even with offline navigation depending on a good/solid/working GPS connection?

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                          Using off line navigation or not, always switch off roaming in Switserland. They have their own telecom rules and are not part of the EU which implicates that the EU roaming agreements don't apply for them. As soon as your telephone makes contact to a Swiss telephone service, costs kick in. To avoid this, use a Swiss eSIM .
                          https://saily.com/download-esim-app/

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                          • Tony 13undefined Offline
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                            For the roaming you just need to check your contract. O2 does include Switzerland in roaming from the UK
                            https://www.o2.co.uk/help/international-and-network/using-your-phone-abroad/roaming-in-europe-pay-monthly

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                              Using off line navigation or not, always switch off roaming in Switserland. They have their own telecom rules and are not part of the EU which implicates that the EU roaming agreements don't apply for them. As soon as your telephone makes contact to a Swiss telephone service, costs kick in. To avoid this, use a Swiss eSIM .
                              https://saily.com/download-esim-app/

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                              @Guzt However, this is only partially true. For example, Deutsche Telekom's tariffs include roaming in Switzerland and the UK.
                              I can't comment on other providers.

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                              • Guztundefined Guzt

                                Using off line navigation or not, always switch off roaming in Switserland. They have their own telecom rules and are not part of the EU which implicates that the EU roaming agreements don't apply for them. As soon as your telephone makes contact to a Swiss telephone service, costs kick in. To avoid this, use a Swiss eSIM .
                                https://saily.com/download-esim-app/

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                                @Guzt I mentioned this before... That's not entirely true! There are Dutch providers that simply consider Switzerland an EU country. For example, with my Dutch mobile plan, I'm allowed to use 50GB per month from my Dutch data bundle in an EU country (including Switzerland). So you really need to check the terms and conditions of your provider in your own country!

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                                  My provider blocks Switzerland just to avoid the possible surprise. I have to activate it or buy a data plan for it. But then, Belgian telecom is so what the most expensive in the EU.
                                  So it is up to Adrian to check this with his telecom provider.

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                                    My provider blocks Switzerland just to avoid the possible surprise. I have to activate it or buy a data plan for it. But then, Belgian telecom is so what the most expensive in the EU.
                                    So it is up to Adrian to check this with his telecom provider.

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                                    @Guzt said in MRA and tunnels:

                                    Belgian telecom is so what the most expensive in the EU.

                                    Time to shop elsewhere 😉

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                                    • Nomko Nomdenundefined Nomko Nomden

                                      Does offline navigation not solve this issue? Or are you even with offline navigation depending on a good/solid/working GPS connection?

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                                      @Nomko-Nomden offline navigation depends also on good GPS receive. Means: you don't need roaming/eSIM for Internet connection. But in long tunnels, you will loose GPS - and if there is an exit inside the tunnel, you need to take- MyRoute-App may will not navigate you!

                                      Nothing is impossible ;-)
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