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    Quim N
    wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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    Hi, I'm using Silvergox H1+ on a DMD tablet to control MRA. I use F2 set via Bluetooth as suggested by SFox and it works quite well. The only unconfortable issue happens when I long-press (·) button to skip waypoint, because when I do so the app alternates between compass modes many times (it repeats the single-press function) before it actually skips the waypoint.

    I've contacted Riku from SFox and they say this may be up to how MRA implement the function in their code. Besides this, they say that they will check their firmware too.

    What is MRA position on this? May I do something to improve it via configuration options?

    Thanks!

    Quim

    1250GSA - DMD865X - SilverfoxH1+

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      Thomas Neumeyer
      wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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      Hello, I recognised the same thing with Silverfox B8J.

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        Corjan Meijerink
        Developer
        wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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        It's indeed a possible discussion between MRA and the supplier.

        The answer is simple: SilverFox emits both the short press and long signal when long pressing. As you long press you get:

        • Short press: clicked
        • Long press: clicked
        • Long press: released
        • Short press: released

        In my opinion the firmware should not emit the short press when it becomes a long press (that's just industry standard really).
        SilverFox could argue that we need to cancel the short press when detecting a long press - theoretically possible but annoying with our framework and against my vision that it's a firmware issue 😉

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          It's indeed a possible discussion between MRA and the supplier.

          The answer is simple: SilverFox emits both the short press and long signal when long pressing. As you long press you get:

          • Short press: clicked
          • Long press: clicked
          • Long press: released
          • Short press: released

          In my opinion the firmware should not emit the short press when it becomes a long press (that's just industry standard really).
          SilverFox could argue that we need to cancel the short press when detecting a long press - theoretically possible but annoying with our framework and against my vision that it's a firmware issue 😉

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          Quim N
          wrote 28 days ago last edited by Quim N 28 days ago
          #4

          @Corjan-Meijerink That makes sense. I'll copy it to Silverfox, maybe they can take this into account and update their firmware.
          Thanks!!

          1250GSA - DMD865X - SilverfoxH1+

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            Corjan Meijerink
            Developer
            wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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            That's fine!
            I'm quite well in touch with Riku too so feel free to mention he can contact me 🙂

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              28 days ago

              @Corjan-Meijerink That makes sense. I'll copy it to Silverfox, maybe they can take this into account and update their firmware.
              Thanks!!

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              Kenny Thierens
              wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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              @Quim-N said in Silverfox H1+ long-press:

              @Corjan-Meijerink That makes sense. I'll copy it to Silverfox, maybe they can this into account and update their firmware.
              Thanks!!

              @Quim-N it's the same issue with the C1 controller so if you can mention it too, that would be awesome

              '07 BMW R1200RT
              DMD² T865x tablet
              Silverfox C1 controller
              Samsung S24+
              Cardo Spirit HD headset

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                28 days ago

                @Corjan-Meijerink That makes sense. I'll copy it to Silverfox, maybe they can take this into account and update their firmware.
                Thanks!!

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                Nick Carthew
                RouteXpert
                wrote 28 days ago last edited by
                #7

                @Quim-N And you may as well mention the B8J to Riku too as this has the same issue.

                Always willing to help if I can.
                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                  Quim N
                  wrote 28 days ago last edited by
                  #8

                  Sent Corjan answer to Riku, and mentioned B8J and C1 common problem too. Thanks!

                  1250GSA - DMD865X - SilverfoxH1+

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                    28 days ago

                    Sent Corjan answer to Riku, and mentioned B8J and C1 common problem too. Thanks!

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                    Nick Carthew
                    RouteXpert
                    wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                    Thanks @Quim-N
                    It doesn't really bother me, I just tap the compass button twice and return to Dynamic view.

                    Always willing to help if I can.
                    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                    Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                    TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                      28 days ago

                      Thanks @Quim-N
                      It doesn't really bother me, I just tap the compass button twice and return to Dynamic view.

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                      Marinus van Deudekom
                      Valued contributor
                      wrote 28 days ago last edited by
                      #10

                      @Nick-Carthew it would be nice if Riku and Corjan could fix the problem. Meanwhile I’m a happy click Guy. Like you said enoying but that’s all

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                        Corjan Meijerink
                        Developer
                        wrote 28 days ago last edited by
                        #11

                        I'm already emailing with Riku about this 🙂

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                          28 days ago

                          I'm already emailing with Riku about this 🙂

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                          Marinus van Deudekom
                          Valued contributor
                          wrote 27 days ago last edited by
                          #12

                          @Corjan-Meijerink I know you do all you can to fix problems. In this case I’d say It takes twi to tango.
                          Keep up you excellent work

                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                            28 days ago

                            I'm already emailing with Riku about this 🙂

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                            Quim N
                            wrote 22 days ago last edited by Quim N 6 Dec 2025, 16:36
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                            @Corjan-Meijerink Riku fron Silverfox sent me a couple of firmware updates to test them and now all buttons short and long-press do work fine.
                            I've tested it through DMD buttons app, in F2 mode via bluetooth (wich is the setting needed for MuRouteApp) and it returns these codes:
                            Center (•) short 31, long 32
                            Minus (-) short 69, long 29
                            Plus (+) short 70, long 30

                            Now the only issue seems to be on MyRoute's side, because not all button functions work in all menus and sub-submenus. This is what i've found:

                            Navigation view:
                            (•) toggles compass modes
                            Long (•) skip waypoint
                            (-) zoom out
                            Long (-) does nothing [should toggle timer modes?]
                            (+) zoom in
                            Long (+) enters menu

                            Navigation menu:
                            (-) exits menu

                            Map view
                            (•) compass
                            (-) zoom out
                            (+) zoom in
                            Long (+) enters menu

                            Main menu:
                            (•) enters item
                            (-) exits menu
                            Long (+) also exits menu

                            Account menu and sub-menus:
                            (-) exits menu
                            Long (+) also exits menu

                            Other menus:
                            -no enter, no exit (e.g no way to select or to initiate route)
                            -no way to access back arrow (on top left) nor other top screen items with joystick arrows

                            Thank you!

                            1250GSA - DMD865X - SilverfoxH1+

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                              Corjan Meijerink
                              Developer
                              wrote 19 days ago last edited by
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                              The new firmware is indeed working correct! Resolving the issue of long pressing also submitting a short press function 🙂 Nice that Riku fixed it that quickly!

                              I will confirm that we support the new firmware. He will then probably update it on his website for others to download. I could not find any issues in our app apart from the fact that we don't offer full app support for bluetooth controllers.

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                                19 days ago

                                The new firmware is indeed working correct! Resolving the issue of long pressing also submitting a short press function 🙂 Nice that Riku fixed it that quickly!

                                I will confirm that we support the new firmware. He will then probably update it on his website for others to download. I could not find any issues in our app apart from the fact that we don't offer full app support for bluetooth controllers.

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                                Quim N
                                wrote 18 days ago last edited by
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                                @Corjan-Meijerink I understand there is no need, and may be rather dangerous, to navigate all menus through a bluetooth controller, but could it be possible just to associate (-)button long-press to toggle timer modes? It is the only function I fount not working with Silverfox in navigation mode.

                                Thanks!

                                1250GSA - DMD865X - SilverfoxH1+

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                                  Marinus van Deudekom
                                  Valued contributor
                                  wrote 17 days ago last edited by
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                                  I've had contact with Riku from Silverfox. On my request he made an update for the H1 trying to solve the long press issue. Unfortunately something went wrong on his side witch makes the update unable to use. He will come back to me once the problem is solved. I did not want to take the chance of my upcoming trip to be spoild

                                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                  Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                  Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                    18 days ago

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink I understand there is no need, and may be rather dangerous, to navigate all menus through a bluetooth controller, but could it be possible just to associate (-)button long-press to toggle timer modes? It is the only function I fount not working with Silverfox in navigation mode.

                                    Thanks!

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                                    Corjan Meijerink
                                    Developer
                                    wrote 16 days ago last edited by
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                                    @Quim-N I just tested the C1 in navigation mode to toggle the ETA and that works as expected. I assume it works with all SilverFox controllers.

                                    Are you actually driving a route with waypoints? Otherwise the function just does not work on MRA side 😉

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                                      @Quim-N I just tested the C1 in navigation mode to toggle the ETA and that works as expected. I assume it works with all SilverFox controllers.

                                      Are you actually driving a route with waypoints? Otherwise the function just does not work on MRA side 😉

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                                      Marinus van Deudekom
                                      Valued contributor
                                      wrote 16 days ago last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink Yes but for the H1 the update was not applicable. It seems that the update will cause serious problems to the controller that can only be resolved with the developers tools, witch we don't.
                                      That's what Riku told me regarding the H1 controller

                                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                        16 days ago

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink Yes but for the H1 the update was not applicable. It seems that the update will cause serious problems to the controller that can only be resolved with the developers tools, witch we don't.
                                        That's what Riku told me regarding the H1 controller

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                                        Corjan Meijerink
                                        Developer
                                        wrote 16 days ago last edited by
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                                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom how is this relevant to my comment? 😛

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                                          16 days ago

                                          @Quim-N I just tested the C1 in navigation mode to toggle the ETA and that works as expected. I assume it works with all SilverFox controllers.

                                          Are you actually driving a route with waypoints? Otherwise the function just does not work on MRA side 😉

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                                          Nick Carthew
                                          RouteXpert
                                          wrote 16 days ago last edited by Nick Carthew
                                          #20

                                          @Corjan-Meijerink Do you know if Riku will be making the updated firmware available publicly? I’ve just checked the SilverFox website and I couldn’t see any updates.
                                          As you know, I have the B8J and although the longpress triggering the short press command doesn’t really bother me, but if there was an easy fix by updating the firmware I’d like to be able to do it.

                                          Cancel this request, I’ve just read your new update post 😀

                                          Always willing to help if I can.
                                          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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