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  • Rainer Treichelundefined Offline
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    Rainer Treichel
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    Re: offlineHello,
    Version 4.3.7
    Pixel 9 Pro XL
    Android Auto via cable in bz4X
    Navigation works fine until:
    I drive 500 metres apart into a forest to do what old men have to do after drinking coffee.
    Smartphone stays in the vehicle.
    The vehicle remains activated, in the past you would have said: the ignition remains switched on.
    I then return to the route, which is now displayed in white.
    There are driving instructions that do not match the visible route.
    The reason is that the next waypoint, which is over 30 kilometres away, was skipped.
    Then stop and select the original waypoint, which now works quite simply compared to previous versions.
    Route is recalculated, although I am on it, is ok.
    Remedy: Route calculation failed.
    Cause: LTE with poor reception instead of G5, as can occur in the Weser mountains.
    The smartphone reports that it is online, but the connection is obviously so poor that the calculation fails.
    Lots of fiddling with AA and finally with the smartphone itself. Manual switch to offline.
    Drive on.

    How about suppressing the <route calculation failed> message when offline maps are available.
    And the offline maps and the offline calculation are used. WITHOUT error message, at most an information.
    Then the normal algorithm for activating online mode can run.

    Looking forward to your feedback

    Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

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    • Rainer Treichelundefined Rainer Treichel

      Re: offlineHello,
      Version 4.3.7
      Pixel 9 Pro XL
      Android Auto via cable in bz4X
      Navigation works fine until:
      I drive 500 metres apart into a forest to do what old men have to do after drinking coffee.
      Smartphone stays in the vehicle.
      The vehicle remains activated, in the past you would have said: the ignition remains switched on.
      I then return to the route, which is now displayed in white.
      There are driving instructions that do not match the visible route.
      The reason is that the next waypoint, which is over 30 kilometres away, was skipped.
      Then stop and select the original waypoint, which now works quite simply compared to previous versions.
      Route is recalculated, although I am on it, is ok.
      Remedy: Route calculation failed.
      Cause: LTE with poor reception instead of G5, as can occur in the Weser mountains.
      The smartphone reports that it is online, but the connection is obviously so poor that the calculation fails.
      Lots of fiddling with AA and finally with the smartphone itself. Manual switch to offline.
      Drive on.

      How about suppressing the <route calculation failed> message when offline maps are available.
      And the offline maps and the offline calculation are used. WITHOUT error message, at most an information.
      Then the normal algorithm for activating online mode can run.

      Looking forward to your feedback

      Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

      Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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      Con Hennekens
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @Rainer-Treichel, the offline maps are being used, whether you enabled offline Navigation or not. That option only tells whether the route calculations are done online (with traffic info if enabled) or offline (without traffic info no matter what). If you stop (for whatever you do in the forest) you should stop navigation. You can resume before you drive off again. Personally, I have a habit of keeping the route going too, but at least I also have a habit of checking the route before I drive off again ๐Ÿ˜‰

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Rainer-Treichel, the offline maps are being used, whether you enabled offline Navigation or not. That option only tells whether the route calculations are done online (with traffic info if enabled) or offline (without traffic info no matter what). If you stop (for whatever you do in the forest) you should stop navigation. You can resume before you drive off again. Personally, I have a habit of keeping the route going too, but at least I also have a habit of checking the route before I drive off again ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        Rainer Treichel
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @Con-Hennekens
        Thanks for the answer!
        #1 The continuation of a running route must work. A workaraound with pause and resume makes sense if the pause lasts a long time and I'm travelling far (how far is that?) from the route. A pee break is not part of it for me.

        #2 Actually, my concern was that the route calculation must not fail at any time as long as there is power in the battery. It shouldn't if it automatically switches to offline
        <Route cannot be calculated> is already annoying in a car and dangerous on a motorbike.
        Displaying the original route takes away a lot of the anxiety, which is a great feature.

        #3 No answer on the subject of poor online connection.
        A smartphone is also online with GSM. However, the connection is so poor that online route calculation is not possible.
        My suggestion: Switch to offline if the route calculation fails. I.e. when the above-mentioned error message appears. Regardless of the online status displayed.

        A lot of words, but I think the #1 route software you are developing is worth it.

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        • Rainer Treichelundefined Rainer Treichel

          @Con-Hennekens
          Thanks for the answer!
          #1 The continuation of a running route must work. A workaraound with pause and resume makes sense if the pause lasts a long time and I'm travelling far (how far is that?) from the route. A pee break is not part of it for me.

          #2 Actually, my concern was that the route calculation must not fail at any time as long as there is power in the battery. It shouldn't if it automatically switches to offline
          <Route cannot be calculated> is already annoying in a car and dangerous on a motorbike.
          Displaying the original route takes away a lot of the anxiety, which is a great feature.

          #3 No answer on the subject of poor online connection.
          A smartphone is also online with GSM. However, the connection is so poor that online route calculation is not possible.
          My suggestion: Switch to offline if the route calculation fails. I.e. when the above-mentioned error message appears. Regardless of the online status displayed.

          A lot of words, but I think the #1 route software you are developing is worth it.

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          Con Hennekens
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @Rainer-Treichel said in Switching to offline with a very poor internet connection:

          A pee break is not part of it for me.

          You said earlier you drive off the road for half a kilometer. That can definitely be the cause for multiple recalculations.

          My suggestion: Switch to offline if the route calculation fails. I.e. when the above-mentioned error message appears.

          As far as I know you get a message asking you to go offline, was that not the case?

          A lot of words, but I think the #1 route software you are developing is worth it.

          Credits to the MRA team, it's not my development ๐Ÿ˜‰

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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