Navigating with a track or navigating with a route?

[David Rudgley]

@Con-Hennekens In an ideal world I get my fellow riders to all use MRA Navigation Next... Unfortunately they are reluctant having already invested in their own method of navigating whether that be TomTom Rider, Garmin Zumo etc.

The next best thing, I provide them with is the route/track, transferred by the most reliable means (Device connector, GPX.x.xx version) whatever suits their device the best which then results in them following the route closely as originally intended.

On a recent tour through Europe one of the riders in the group was given the route GPX file and if it wasn't for being able to see his fellow riders ahead he was being directed differently to everyone else.

So in summary, riders tell me what their device is, I tell them exactly what steps they need to follow which then provides them with a route that they can rely on. I just need to know the optimum applicable to each device.

Regards
David R

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@davidrudgley-net Or you make shure that the route you provide is the same for Here, TomTom and OSM so they can use it on all systems, That'swhat we call an RouteXpert proof route.

[David Rudgley]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom Yes I understand that, but for example do I suggest to the TomTom Rider users to use the Connector App, if so what export option do they use?? is the Connector App method better than providing them with a GPX file, is there a version of the GPX that is better than another? or is it better to transfer through 'Save As' using the TomTom MyDrive log in??

[David Rudgley]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom Just to add, I put a lot of hard work into getting the routes accurate, I make sure all WP's are on the road and positioned correctly away from roundabouts, junction etc. I check between the three maps TomTom, Here and OSM making all necessary corrections and I ensure that there are plenty of WP's, expanding the quantity where necessary. Having done all this on my last tour we still had problems with riders getting lost due to differences in directions between devices. If I can eliminate these differences by advising riders the 'best practice' import process we can hopefully avoid these issues.

If the answer is... you just have to live with the inaccuracies because the export process is never going to be 100% accurate every time then so be it, at least I can manage expectations.

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@davidrudgley-net if they don’t use MRA and you orovide them an gpx file it’s Out of your hands and control. I would vive them an gpx 1.1 file because that can be used on all devices but there’s no real way of telling what will hapen to you carefully planned route once a dedicated device gets it ckaws into it.
Most likely there Will be diverences Between the routes on different devices. If they got lost like you said something else has gone wrong.

[Con Hennekens]

@davidrudgley-net, The method of transfer is in my view not important. Whether they get the route through GPX, the connector or whatever should not matter. Good practice is to always plan your routes the same way. Leave route optimization on quickest, and all allowed roads enabled. At least in the final stage. Of course you can disable unpaved or highways in planning stage, but rework your route to be identical with everything allowed. Instruct your riders to allow all roads too. Ithink that is best practise to ensure everyone gets the best result. You can export your GPX with track, that way riders cab check for themselves if the route is going according to how it was planned.

[Hubert Thoring]

@Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder

So the question when should the good idea be implemented "Suppolation to improve route navigation" s. Blog

Good morning Michael,

A question about the timeline in this project, because yesterday there was spontaneously exactly that again.

Quickly click to the goal and go, only my friend and so it goes probably many others do not know exactly this difference.

• Route = 1 straight course

• Track = Track 2,3,4 Rich In Curves

Many also probably very many customers of the MRA Think you drive at curves (2,3,4) also a route. Who's reading a manual?

This is what happened:

The click was a track = track (2) to the goal and it came as it had to come, he came off the track without consciously doing it and he was asked to drive back for an infinitely long time via the announcement and screen. He was frustrated and unhappy because he was leading in front.

After a spontaneous gas stop, I drove at the front again, but I tried to explain it to him briefly, he grabbed the helmet and just shook his head ...

Even in the evening with beer it has led to a longer discussion. ...

Also die Frage wann soll die Gute Idee denn umgesetzt werden „Vorschlag zur Verbesserung der Streckennavigation“ s. Blog

Guten Morgen Michael,
eine Frage zum zeitlichen Ablauf in diesem Projekt, denn gestern gab es spontan wieder genau das.

Schnell klick zum Ziel und los, nur mein Freund und so geht es wohl sehr viele andere kennen genau diesen Unterschied nicht.

• Route = 1 gerader Verlauf
• Strecke = Track 2,3,4 Kurvenreich

Viele auch wohl sehr viele Kunden der MRA Denke Sie fahren bei Kurvenreich (2,3,4) auch eine Route, wer liest schon ein Handbuch.

Das ist passiert:

Der Klick war eine Strecke = Track (2) zum Ziel und es kam wie es kommen musste, er kam ab von der Strecke ohne es bewusst zu tun und er wurde über die Ansage und Bildschirm unendlich lange gebeten zurück zu fahren. Er war frustriert und unglücklich denn er fuhr vorne.

Nach einem spontanen Tankstop bin ich dann doch wieder vorne gefahren, habe versucht ihm das aber kurz zu erklärt, er fasste sich an den Helm und schüttelte nur noch den Kopf …

Auch Abends beim Bier hat es zu einer längeren Diskussion geführt. …