gpx 1.1 vs 1.2

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@Hubert-Thoring Nope Drive only works with the XT

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Alasdair-Denton-Miller

See this blog: https://info.myrouteapp.com/blog-routes-loading-garmin-zumo-xt/

In short: gpx 1.1 is a route with shaping and via points

gpx 1.2 is a route-track with via points

In the XT2 you have to link the track to a collection
See all the options in the Explore icon on the XT2

There are indeed some issues regarding a Mac and the XT(2). See also: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/1396/garmin-zumo-xt-mac?_=1722582031290

There are 2 ways to put the route in your XT(2):

1. Save the route as gpx 1.1 (this will be placed in the download folder) move the gpx file using Android File Transfer to the GPX folder on the XT(2)

2. Download the MRA App "My-Route-app" from the app store.
   Download the Garmind Drive-App (XT) or the Garmin Tread (XT2)
   Log in with your MRA account
   Go to routes in the app, open the route, choose download, choose export, then choose the Garmin Drive App (XT) or Tread (XT2).

If you have connected the App to your XT with your Garmin account, the route will be transferred to the XT(2)

In both cases, restart the XT(2) and you will receive a message that there is a new route that you can import. Choose Yes.

[Carl Lee]

@Hubert-Thoring yes, I'd seen your phone cable which is certainly an option to put gpx1.2 to the XT2. And as you've seen, it has to be Tread otherwise. I'm actually happy with gpx1.1 if I can manage to get it right all the time.

The issue most of us seem to be having is Tread getting hold of our pre-built routes and changing them should we not have enough shaping points. I've tried using the MRA 'expand' option but yet again, not usually compatible with Tread, I think due to the random nature of where it places the points. So it's a case of manual input of a limited amount of shaping points in order to try to stop Tread thinking better. I think any more than 50 per route and it also goes tilt and will not calculate.

It's a different beast this XT2 but I love MRA and want to keep using it. The Tread planning function is a half decent compromise on the move to plot a diversion etc. but definitely nowhere near as good.

[Andy Beviere]

All,

Forgive me for coming to the party late!

I have wasted hours of my life on this sh*t show that Garmin think is acceptable to release to paying customers!! Please see my findings below…

The unit itself (XT2) is generally flawless if used itself to get from A to B, if however like me you tour a lot and want to share and plan routes around certain points/locations with MRA (best route software out there) All the options below are for OTA file transfer using the MRA app and the Tread app.

GPX 1.0 route will work but no shaping points shown on the map but works!

GPX 1.1 Track/POI convert to route on the unit, works!

GPX 1.1 Route/Track/POI works but you have to check and if necessary adjust the route on the unit.

GPX 1.2 Drops the shaping points and adjusts the route between the via points… I have absolutely no idea why…? This option is definitely no good!

Thanks for an amazing piece of software MRA!

Andy.

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Andy-Beviere

gpx 1.2 is a route-track with via points, works fine in de XT and XT2, but it needs via points in a route (max 28)

[Andy Beviere]

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA

Hi Hans,

Many thanks for your reply but unfortunately in my-case this is incorrect, if I send a route from MRA to Tread and onto the XT2 over the air only the via points are shown and the unit changes the route between the via points, obviously this could be my error but believe me I’ve tried and tried…

Just to reiterate this is file transfer over the air and my issues are when the route is viewed on the unit not on MRA or Tread.

Thanks again,

Andy.

[Skellum]

@Andy-Beviere said in gpx 1.1 vs 1.2:

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA

Hi Hans,

Many thanks for your reply but unfortunately in my-case this is incorrect, if I send a route from MRA to Tread and onto the XT2 over the air only the via points are shown and the unit changes the route between the via points, obviously this could be my error but believe me I’ve tried and tried…

Just to reiterate this is file transfer over the air and my issues are when the route is viewed on the unit not on MRA or Tread.

Thanks again,

Andy.

Hi Andy,
Not sure if you have seen this earlier post from Steve Jarrell that really explains how 1.2 works and why he feels it is better to use than 1.1
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/2734/gpx-1-1-vs-1-2-simple-explanation
Hope it helps
Tony

[Martin Wilcke]

@Andy-Beviere said in gpx 1.1 vs 1.2:

the unit changes the route between the via points

It's not the unit (XT2); the Tread app causes the problem.

GPX 1.2 is similar to the basecamp format: You have your VIA points, and the route segments in between are shaped with a lot of "hidden shaping points" (gpxx:rpt extensions):

When transferring a GPX 1.2 with USB to your XT2, these hidden points are preserved, but when using the Tread App, these points are filtered out.

So, for your case (XT2, transfer with Tread), GPX 1.1 is the only useful choice.

(By the way, it's not an issue with an XT(!), as the Drive App (not Tread) transfers the GPX to the unit, which preserves the hidden points).

[Andy Beviere]

@Martin-Wilcke

Hi Martin yes totally agree, its when the route goes from the Tread app to the XT2…

Many thanks,

Andy.

[Andy Beviere]

@Skellum

Ooooh Thanks Tony… will have a read!

Thanks,

Andy.