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    Jörgen
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    wrote on 11 Jul 2024, 07:15 last edited by Jörgen 7 Nov 2024, 07:16
    #1

    Hi, I made a curvy track just by entering the target and use of curvy road.

    Then I did not follow the given Track.

    Screenshot_20240709-131448.png

    MRA wants me to turn around!

    Screenshot_20240709-132007.png

    Turn around always for a long way and not trying to take the shortest possibility back to the track.

    Screenshot_20240709-132342.png

    Even not when I am 30m away from the track!

    What is going wrong here?

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      11 Jul 2024, 07:15

      Hi, I made a curvy track just by entering the target and use of curvy road.

      Then I did not follow the given Track.

      Screenshot_20240709-131448.png

      MRA wants me to turn around!

      Screenshot_20240709-132007.png

      Turn around always for a long way and not trying to take the shortest possibility back to the track.

      Screenshot_20240709-132342.png

      Even not when I am 30m away from the track!

      What is going wrong here?

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      Hubert Thoring
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      wrote on 11 Jul 2024, 10:41 last edited by Hubert Thoring 7 Nov 2024, 10:49
      #2

      @Jörgen

      s. Route von A zu B schneller anpassen

      Hey Jörgen, schau mal da, genau das hat mich auch schon oft geärgert, jetzt weiß ich das nur der direkte Weg s. 1.) flexibel reagiert. Die Kurven Strecken 2.),3.)4.) sind feste Tracks die Du starr folgen sollst (scheinbar musst) auch wenn es für dich keinen Sinn macht.

      IMG_6784.jpeg

      Hey Jörgen, look there, that's exactly what has annoyed me many times, now I know that only the direct way reacts flexibly. The curve stretches are fixed tracks that you should follow rigidly (apparently have to) even if it doesn't make sense to you.

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        Corjan Meijerink
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        wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 07:06 last edited by
        #3

        Previously people complained that when you’d deviate from the track, too much of the original track would be lost. Now too much is attempted to be preserved 🙂

        I do understand this isn’t exactly the desirable situation too but we unfortunately do not have control about the rerouting logic for tracks in that level of detail (compared to route navigation).

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        • undefined Corjan Meijerink
          12 Jul 2024, 07:06

          Previously people complained that when you’d deviate from the track, too much of the original track would be lost. Now too much is attempted to be preserved 🙂

          I do understand this isn’t exactly the desirable situation too but we unfortunately do not have control about the rerouting logic for tracks in that level of detail (compared to route navigation).

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          Jörgen
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          wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 07:43 last edited by
          #4

          @Corjan-Meijerink One question, did I properly miss the start point and was this the reason I was guided back?

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            12 Jul 2024, 07:43

            @Corjan-Meijerink One question, did I properly miss the start point and was this the reason I was guided back?

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            Corjan Meijerink
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            wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 08:21 last edited by
            #5

            @Jörgen probably

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              11 Jul 2024, 07:15

              Hi, I made a curvy track just by entering the target and use of curvy road.

              Then I did not follow the given Track.

              Screenshot_20240709-131448.png

              MRA wants me to turn around!

              Screenshot_20240709-132007.png

              Turn around always for a long way and not trying to take the shortest possibility back to the track.

              Screenshot_20240709-132342.png

              Even not when I am 30m away from the track!

              What is going wrong here?

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              GT JWR
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              wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 16:10 last edited by GT JWR 7 Dec 2024, 16:11
              #6

              @Jörgen I've experienced that as well, and while my route had numerous possibilities, the app insisted, for 23mi, that I do a u-turn and go back....makes it hard to 'trust' the app 😕

              https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/49267

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              • undefined GT JWR
                12 Jul 2024, 16:10

                @Jörgen I've experienced that as well, and while my route had numerous possibilities, the app insisted, for 23mi, that I do a u-turn and go back....makes it hard to 'trust' the app 😕

                https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/49267

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                Hubert Thoring
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                wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 17:04 last edited by Hubert Thoring 7 Dec 2024, 17:17
                #7

                @GT-JWR : @Jörgen

                Recommendation only the 1.) s. Image to use if you want to remain flexible and still want to keep an eye on the goal.

                • 1.) this is a route that is adjusted again and again when leaving

                • 2.) , 3.) and 4.) are fixed tracks / tracks that are absolutely to be driven, the app leads you hard back to the exit point when you leave and from there you only kindly continue without an announcement...

                IMG_6784.jpeg

                @Corjan-Meijerink 👋

                Suggestion: also 2.) should be a route with a higher proportion of curves than under 1.).

                Under 1.) it is still unclear to me with which avoidances the route will probably be calculated. Setting motorcycle and then?

                This should also be supplemented by avoiding under 1.). 👋

                IMG_6828.jpeg

                VG Hubert
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                • undefined Hubert Thoring
                  12 Jul 2024, 17:04

                  @GT-JWR : @Jörgen

                  Recommendation only the 1.) s. Image to use if you want to remain flexible and still want to keep an eye on the goal.

                  • 1.) this is a route that is adjusted again and again when leaving

                  • 2.) , 3.) and 4.) are fixed tracks / tracks that are absolutely to be driven, the app leads you hard back to the exit point when you leave and from there you only kindly continue without an announcement...

                  IMG_6784.jpeg

                  @Corjan-Meijerink 👋

                  Suggestion: also 2.) should be a route with a higher proportion of curves than under 1.).

                  Under 1.) it is still unclear to me with which avoidances the route will probably be calculated. Setting motorcycle and then?

                  This should also be supplemented by avoiding under 1.). 👋

                  IMG_6828.jpeg

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                  GT JWR
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                  wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 18:01 last edited by
                  #8

                  @Hubert-Thoring thanks for the input. In my example, it was a very simple A-B route, and the fact that it did not reroute after a couple of miles, to me, was extremely odd. There were no waypoints, just a start and a finish. (see the link, it explains what was going on, complete with screen shots).

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                  • undefined Hubert Thoring
                    12 Jul 2024, 17:04

                    @GT-JWR : @Jörgen

                    Recommendation only the 1.) s. Image to use if you want to remain flexible and still want to keep an eye on the goal.

                    • 1.) this is a route that is adjusted again and again when leaving

                    • 2.) , 3.) and 4.) are fixed tracks / tracks that are absolutely to be driven, the app leads you hard back to the exit point when you leave and from there you only kindly continue without an announcement...

                    IMG_6784.jpeg

                    @Corjan-Meijerink 👋

                    Suggestion: also 2.) should be a route with a higher proportion of curves than under 1.).

                    Under 1.) it is still unclear to me with which avoidances the route will probably be calculated. Setting motorcycle and then?

                    This should also be supplemented by avoiding under 1.). 👋

                    IMG_6828.jpeg

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                    Hubert Thoring
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                    wrote on 21 Jul 2024, 11:55 last edited by
                    #9

                    @Corjan-Meijerink : Eine Bitte könntest Du das von zuvor noch beantworten ?

                    VG Hubert
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                    • undefined Hubert Thoring
                      21 Jul 2024, 11:55

                      @Corjan-Meijerink : Eine Bitte könntest Du das von zuvor noch beantworten ?

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                      Corjan Meijerink
                      Developer
                      wrote on 21 Jul 2024, 12:08 last edited by
                      #10

                      @Hubert-Thoring to what?
                      What you state in the image is indeed correct.

                      Fastest option is A-B route navigation.
                      Rest is track navigation.

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                      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                        21 Jul 2024, 12:08

                        @Hubert-Thoring to what?
                        What you state in the image is indeed correct.

                        Fastest option is A-B route navigation.
                        Rest is track navigation.

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                        Hubert Thoring
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                        wrote on 21 Jul 2024, 12:40 last edited by
                        #11

                        @Corjan-Meijerink : Sorry … Die Frage ist leider noch offen geblieben.

                        • Könnte man in der 1.) A-B Route Navigation diese Auswahl s. Bild als mögliche Auswahl wohl ergänzen ❓

                        • IMG_6936.jpeg

                        • Oder geht das nur in der reinen Track Navigation ❓

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                        • undefined Hubert Thoring
                          21 Jul 2024, 12:40

                          @Corjan-Meijerink : Sorry … Die Frage ist leider noch offen geblieben.

                          • Könnte man in der 1.) A-B Route Navigation diese Auswahl s. Bild als mögliche Auswahl wohl ergänzen ❓

                          • IMG_6936.jpeg

                          • Oder geht das nur in der reinen Track Navigation ❓

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                          Corjan Meijerink
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                          wrote on 21 Jul 2024, 13:42 last edited by
                          #12

                          @Hubert-Thoring as the options are only available in track navigation that is indeed by design 😉
                          The route navigation by HERE don’t support these settings.

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                          • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                            21 Jul 2024, 13:42

                            @Hubert-Thoring as the options are only available in track navigation that is indeed by design 😉
                            The route navigation by HERE don’t support these settings.

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                            Hubert Thoring
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                            wrote on 21 Jul 2024, 13:56 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Corjan-Meijerink : Hey Corjan, Herzlichen Dank für die klare Antwort. Ich werde es allen meinen Freunden so erklären 👋 Dir weiterhin viel Erfolg beim + MRA Route Thema, das ist auch eine schnelle Möglichkeit für unterwegs jetzt schön zu fahren

                            Danke auch dafür 👋

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                              Jörgen
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                              wrote on 10 Aug 2024, 21:39 last edited by
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                              Hi, I used an A to B Track (curvy Route) and deviate from the org. Track.

                              And now there was a recalculation to get back to the track. 😳

                              What happened? How is this possible? Was there some change since beginning of July.

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                                10 Aug 2024, 21:39

                                Hi, I used an A to B Track (curvy Route) and deviate from the org. Track.

                                And now there was a recalculation to get back to the track. 😳

                                What happened? How is this possible? Was there some change since beginning of July.

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                                wrote on 11 Aug 2024, 08:37 last edited by
                                #15

                                @Jörgen nothing 😉
                                It all depends on the track and where you deviate.

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                                  wrote on 11 Aug 2024, 08:49 last edited by
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                                  @Corjan-Meijerink Ok, thanks. I was very surprised
                                  I thought something had changed.
                                  Then it would be nice to know when a recalculation takes place and when not?
                                  Or what a recalculation depends on.

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                                    11 Aug 2024, 08:49

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink Ok, thanks. I was very surprised
                                    I thought something had changed.
                                    Then it would be nice to know when a recalculation takes place and when not?
                                    Or what a recalculation depends on.

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                                    wrote on 12 Aug 2024, 15:42 last edited by Hubert Thoring 8 Dec 2024, 17:52
                                    #17

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink :
                                    @Jörgen

                                    I tested the topic of track today with Guru Maps and MRA, there is a positive other behavior with Guru Maps maybe this is an idea that can be found in MRA 🤔

                                    • Route remains as it is

                                    • Position is displayed with the straight but shortest dashed line to the route

                                    • Distance position to the track as the shortest connection

                                    • you can drive and only get the audio hint once to return to the route

                                    • it is probably always a dashed line that shows the shortest connection, on which ges. Route to the deviation of the actual track

                                    • if you are back on the track then it goes normally to the destination

                                    I deliberately just drove out of there

                                    IMG_7300.jpeg

                                    Then shortly afterwards comes the announcement, which is also as text in the display at the top

                                    Then the new reference line to the track comes a little later ...

                                    IMG_7299.jpeg

                                    VG Hubert
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                                      12 Aug 2024, 15:42

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink :
                                      @Jörgen

                                      I tested the topic of track today with Guru Maps and MRA, there is a positive other behavior with Guru Maps maybe this is an idea that can be found in MRA 🤔

                                      • Route remains as it is

                                      • Position is displayed with the straight but shortest dashed line to the route

                                      • Distance position to the track as the shortest connection

                                      • you can drive and only get the audio hint once to return to the route

                                      • it is probably always a dashed line that shows the shortest connection, on which ges. Route to the deviation of the actual track

                                      • if you are back on the track then it goes normally to the destination

                                      I deliberately just drove out of there

                                      IMG_7300.jpeg

                                      Then shortly afterwards comes the announcement, which is also as text in the display at the top

                                      Then the new reference line to the track comes a little later ...

                                      IMG_7299.jpeg

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                                      wrote on 12 Aug 2024, 16:05 last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @Hubert-Thoring Please use the language of the topic. In this case it is in English.

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                                        12 Aug 2024, 16:05

                                        @Hubert-Thoring Please use the language of the topic. In this case it is in English.

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                                        wrote on 12 Aug 2024, 17:53 last edited by
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                                        @Nick-Carthew Okay, it's done

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