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Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??

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  • Paul Smith b Paul Smith b

    @Corjan-Meijerink I have seen your comment that HERE were working on the battery usage last year but I had the same issue this week. From reading other comments do I take it that if I use the TomTom map the battery usage may be better??

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    @Paul-Smith-b the Tomtom can be used for planning route but the MyRoute-app always uses Here for Navigation.

    2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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      #15

      This is really a point
      the battery consumption is almost unacceptable.
      Last week, while riding 4 days Tracks in the Eifel, I decided after lunch to continue riding with the Tomtom go Ride app.
      because even with my phone on the charger the battery drained so quickly that I was afraid it would otherwise Die halfway through the day

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      • RetiredWingMan RetiredWingMan

        @Paul-Smith-b the Tomtom can be used for planning route but the MyRoute-app always uses Here for Navigation.

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        @RetiredWingMan ah I see thanks. So clearly won’t make any difference to battery usage !

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        • Paul Smith b Paul Smith b

          @RetiredWingMan ah I see thanks. So clearly won’t make any difference to battery usage !

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          • Erik 35 Erik 35

            This is really a point
            the battery consumption is almost unacceptable.
            Last week, while riding 4 days Tracks in the Eifel, I decided after lunch to continue riding with the Tomtom go Ride app.
            because even with my phone on the charger the battery drained so quickly that I was afraid it would otherwise Die halfway through the day

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            #18

            @Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!

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            • Paul Smith b Paul Smith b

              @Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!

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              @Paul-Smith-b Agree, I never use MRA, have gone back to Waze. The battery usage is a massive flaw and has been going on for far too long.

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              • Paul Smith b Paul Smith b

                @Erik-35 yes that’s exactly what happened to me, my phone went dead halfway through the day. So I lost both the use of my phone and my satnav via my CarPuride unit. Luckily I was able to get some charge at my lunch stop but it’s really not good enough!

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                @Paul-Smith-b if you use Carpuride why would you leave thé screen of your phone. Put it in thé trunk and connect it to a usb power source and save a lot of battery time on your cell

                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                Garmin XT sold
                Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                • Robert Smith 2 Robert Smith 2

                  @Paul-Smith-b Agree, I never use MRA, have gone back to Waze. The battery usage is a massive flaw and has been going on for far too long.

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                  #21

                  @Robert-Smith-2 Yeah since Waze is the app to use if you want to navigate a planned route. NOT NOT NOT

                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                  Garmin XT sold
                  Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                  • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                    @Robert-Smith-2 Yeah since Waze is the app to use if you want to navigate a planned route. NOT NOT NOT

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                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom Lucky I also have a Garmin XT and Beeline Moto for my bikes then. The point is, if you're going to sell a nav app, ensure it is usable and doesn't run the phone battery flat. That is pretty basic stuff and its not like it hasn't been a year since the issue arose.

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                    • Robert Smith 2 Robert Smith 2

                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom Lucky I also have a Garmin XT and Beeline Moto for my bikes then. The point is, if you're going to sell a nav app, ensure it is usable and doesn't run the phone battery flat. That is pretty basic stuff and its not like it hasn't been a year since the issue arose.

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                      #23

                      @Robert-Smith-2 It's not that basic stuff as you say. If you have your phone on a good USB powersource it still takes a lot of power but it will keep running. If you run it without a power source any nav app will run down.
                      The team is doing it's best to solve the problem with Here and that is exactly the problem they work for MRA en are depending on the folks at Here to get it solved. It has improved a lot but yes there'sstill work to be done.
                      Meanwhile smile and keep enjoying driving 🙂

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT sold
                      Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                      • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Paul-Smith-b if you use Carpuride why would you leave thé screen of your phone. Put it in thé trunk and connect it to a usb power source and save a lot of battery time on your cell

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                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom that is what I am now doing but it does seem to be a flaw with the MRA programme with it’s battery usage far higher than other similar apps?

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                        • Paul Smith b Paul Smith b

                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom that is what I am now doing but it does seem to be a flaw with the MRA programme with it’s battery usage far higher than other similar apps?

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                          @Paul-Smith-b like its been said a lot. The problem is not MRA but Here and Corjan is doing his best to get it solved.

                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                          Garmin XT sold
                          Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                            When navigating. Do not trust only on your phone battery. Make your phone is connected to a powersupply.
                            Every navigation app drains your battery. One more than the other but every app does.

                            That said. I totally acknowledge the battery usage. But somehow on my trip in Scotland MRA did not drain my battery not a single day.
                            Outside temps during the day where around 12 degrees (celcius).
                            Every day my battery stayed on 100% and the phone remains cold.
                            Possible cause. Lack of roads in Scotland and therefore less screen rendering needed.

                            (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                              Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                              Thoughts?

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                                #28

                                @Rajp

                                Not every one has this issue.
                                My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
                                It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.

                                You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                                • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                                  @Rajp

                                  Not every one has this issue.
                                  My personal preference is not to use the voice prompts as I prefer to visually focus on the route line.
                                  It is mentioned by the Dev's that having Voice Notifications enabled can be the cause of the battery drain.

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                                  @Lynchy67 but I'm comparing like for like, I use both voice and visual, online navigation and online maps - in both apps, and Scenic doesn't drain battery half as much as MRA.

                                  The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

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                                  • Rajp Rajp

                                    Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                                    Thoughts?

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                                    @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                    Curious why Scenic.app doesn't suffer from this excessive battery drain whilst MRA does - both apps use HERE maps

                                    Thoughts?

                                    Merely a theory, but MRA uses Flutter rather than native code which I've noticed isn't necessarily as quick/efficient. That's because there's an extra layer of code to 'detach' the Flutter code from the native UI elements.

                                    The second possible reason is that Flutter tries to redraw only the parts of the screen that have changed (as does any decent OS/library), but it's very easy to code that poorly and end up redrawing stuff that doesn't need to be refreshed. Been there, done that! If the HERE API hasn't finely tuned the redraw logic (which admittedly takes time, skill, and a sh*tload of testing), then there will be CPU cycles and battery being used unnecessarly.

                                    Pure guesswork, though, that theory. 🙄

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                                    • Rajp Rajp

                                      @Lynchy67 but I'm comparing like for like, I use both voice and visual, online navigation and online maps - in both apps, and Scenic doesn't drain battery half as much as MRA.

                                      The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

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                                      @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                      The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

                                      I can assure you that I do not have this issue at all. My iPhone 11 charges on my Quadlock wireless charger whilst navigating with MRA.

                                      Always willing to help if I can.
                                      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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                                      • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

                                        @Rajp said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                        The issue exists for everyone, just because you disable some features doesn't mean the issue isn't there, you're just not being impacted by it

                                        I can assure you that I do not have this issue at all. My iPhone 11 charges on my Quadlock wireless charger whilst navigating with MRA.

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                                        @Nick-Carthew Lol - that's because you're charging the phone - try without

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                                        • Rajp Rajp

                                          @Nick-Carthew Lol - that's because you're charging the phone - try without

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                                          @Rajp I wouldn’t expect to use any navigation app or device for any length of time without it being connected to a power supply.

                                          Always willing to help if I can.
                                          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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