BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints
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@paul69 I imported the route. However there is little difference in the route vs track when it comes to support points. Importing the waypoints alone gives me just a straight line between the start and the end.
This is also what I see when exporting from MRA to the Connect Ride app on my iPhone WHEN I EXPORT the route as a GPX1.2 file. When exporting as a GPX1.1 file, the number of point in the route are always below 50.
Like the Track, also the route with the many points (sometimes >3000) can be used by the CRN!
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@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:
Use the TomTom map, use max 50 shaping points. Then send it to the connected app, choose the track and route with 50 points.
Then in the route file tick on the 3 dots in the upper right corner and choose convert to route with points. The 50 points will be visible.
Choose that route on the CRN and you can also make the track visible on the CRNSuperbedankt Hans. Op die manier worden er inderdaad punten zichtbaar. Ik heb niet het idee overigens dat dit de punten zijn die ik in MRA heb aangemaakt. Dus een lunchstop of koffiestop heeft mogelijk geen punt in de CRN.
Heb je misschien daar weer een oplossing voor?
Klopt TT kent geen via punten of harde punten. De route splitsen bij de koffie, lunchstop is een optie
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@paul69 I imported the route. However there is little difference in the route vs track when it comes to support points. Importing the waypoints alone gives me just a straight line between the start and the end.
i have just exported a simple route from MRA to my connected app, if you notice the two are very different, one has 2517 support points and the other only 22. obviously the lower number is the route with the waypoints.
perhaps you should try to import again and see if you get the same result
i cannot explain why you would have so many way/support points in a route.
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@paul69 I imported the route. However there is little difference in the route vs track when it comes to support points. Importing the waypoints alone gives me just a straight line between the start and the end.
i have downloaded the same route as the one you used, i do not seem to be having the issue that you have
as you can see i have something similar to you except my route only shows 32 support points.
i have added a capital A to the name just for reference.
this was in the mRA app on my iPhone.
the route saved in my routes on the website,MRA app>click route> click download as 1.1gpx>then click export>click connected app>this gives the above page>select route to import.
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This is also what I see when exporting from MRA to the Connect Ride app on my iPhone WHEN I EXPORT the route as a GPX1.2 file. When exporting as a GPX1.1 file, the number of point in the route are always below 50.
Like the Track, also the route with the many points (sometimes >3000) can be used by the CRN!
@Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!
GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.
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@Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!
GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.
@Philip-Goh said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:
@Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!
GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.
Exctually, I'm not sure yet that GPX1.1 is the best option. If I look at the ROUTE in the pictures above, I see differences between the route and the Track.
A good check is to:
- make the track visible (e.g. in the color black instead of the default white color)
- then start the route with the fewer waypoints (<50)
- compare the route with the tack on the map.
- differences are easily seen when the blue line (route) deviates from the black line (track).
I'm curious about the result.
Please let me know the outcome!BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)
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@Philip-Goh said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:
@Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!
GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.
Exctually, I'm not sure yet that GPX1.1 is the best option. If I look at the ROUTE in the pictures above, I see differences between the route and the Track.
A good check is to:
- make the track visible (e.g. in the color black instead of the default white color)
- then start the route with the fewer waypoints (<50)
- compare the route with the tack on the map.
- differences are easily seen when the blue line (route) deviates from the black line (track).
I'm curious about the result.
Please let me know the outcome!@Dikke-Wim you have to do what Hans suggested above, which is to take the route, convert it to a set of waypoints and then the route looks very similar to the track. Much better than what was in the screenshot.
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@Dikke-Wim you have to do what Hans suggested above, which is to take the route, convert it to a set of waypoints and then the route looks very similar to the track. Much better than what was in the screenshot.
Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.
Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!
So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.
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Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.
Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!
So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.
@Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:
Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.
Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!
So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.and that is exactly the information given in the link i posted at the beginning of this thread.
to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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@Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:
Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.
Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!
So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.and that is exactly the information given in the link i posted at the beginning of this thread.
Sometimes I'm hard learning...
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@Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:
Sometimes I'm hard learning...
hi
did you look at the thread I inserted. although it's a different forum.
I have actually copied into pdf doc and have easy access to it, for when i forget how to do it.to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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@Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:
Sometimes I'm hard learning...
hi
did you look at the thread I inserted. although it's a different forum.
I have actually copied into pdf doc and have easy access to it, for when i forget how to do it.Could you upload the pdf file here?
That would be nice.BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)
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Use the TomTom map, use max 50 shaping points. Then send it to the connected app, choose the track and route with 50 points.
Then in the route file tick on the 3 dots in the upper right corner and choose convert to route with points. The 50 points will be visible.
Choose that route on the CRN and you can also make the track visible on the CRN@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Hans, I'm curious. Why would you use the route with the waypoints visible? There is no difference between VIA-points and FORM-points. For me it would make sense if you could maken only the VIA-point visible (lunch stops, coffee breaks, castles, etc.). When do you use these waypoints that are visible in the CRN as balloons?
Maybe I miss it but wat is the advantage of seeing all waypoints? The route without the waypoints is the same.
The only thing I can think of is that you can REMEMBER that e.g. waypoint 20 is a coffee break.
A workaround is to add favourites by hand (one by one) in the CRN. These points are visible as a balloon with an asterisk.
Hope te hear from you!
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to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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I don't see an option either. No problem. I think I have enough information already.
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@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Hans, I'm curious. Why would you use the route with the waypoints visible? There is no difference between VIA-points and FORM-points. For me it would make sense if you could maken only the VIA-point visible (lunch stops, coffee breaks, castles, etc.). When do you use these waypoints that are visible in the CRN as balloons?
Maybe I miss it but wat is the advantage of seeing all waypoints? The route without the waypoints is the same.
The only thing I can think of is that you can REMEMBER that e.g. waypoint 20 is a coffee break.
A workaround is to add favourites by hand (one by one) in the CRN. These points are visible as a balloon with an asterisk.
Hope te hear from you!
@Dikke-Wim
The CRN sees all points as injured points, if you change the name of the points, you will see the name in the CRN at a point, for example Coffee or lunch.
You will not receive a notification from the CRN, but you can see them. Or indeed remember the number where you want to stop.Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is. -
I don't see an option either. No problem. I think I have enough information already.
@Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:
I don't see an option either. No problem. I think I have enough information already.
hi @Dikke-Wim
when i found the thread regarding this process (at the beginning of this thread), i just copied the whole explanation into a word doc, then formatted it to make it more readable and then exported to pdf. i am no computer wizard.
incidentally @Topcat502 who started this topic, i hope all these replies have helped you with your query.
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Hi all. Really appreciate the help from all, but what an absolute faff!! It looks like MRA and CRN doesn't play well together and hopefully MRA will rectify this in the future. Other GPX files we have downloaded from other bike sites have worked fine. We ride to planned routes so need the waypoints/shaping points, always have. Sadly, regretting buying MRA/CRN at present. Fingers crossed on future updates.
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Hi all. Really appreciate the help from all, but what an absolute faff!! It looks like MRA and CRN doesn't play well together and hopefully MRA will rectify this in the future. Other GPX files we have downloaded from other bike sites have worked fine. We ride to planned routes so need the waypoints/shaping points, always have. Sadly, regretting buying MRA/CRN at present. Fingers crossed on future updates.
So what doesn't work? Can you share some screenshots of what you see in the CRN of other gpx files and not of an MRA file.
Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is. -
@Dikke-Wim
The CRN sees all points as injured points, if you change the name of the points, you will see the name in the CRN at a point, for example Coffee or lunch.
You will not receive a notification from the CRN, but you can see them. Or indeed remember the number where you want to stop.@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Ik probeer de namen van de punten in de Connect Ride App te veranderen nadat ik een route vanuit MRA heb geëxporteerd als GPX 1.1 file en heb omgezet naar route met waypoints.
Helaas kan ik dan geen namen van de routepunten aanpassen.Hooguit kan in in MRA de namen veranderen (bv. Lunch, koffie, etc.), maar die namen komen niet terug in de Connect Ride app op mijn iPhone. Ook niet op de CRN zelf.
Hoe kun jij de namen veranderen zodat ze uiteindelijk op de CRN zichtbaar worden?
Ik hoor graag van je Hans!
