BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints

[Dikke Wim]

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

@Topcat502

Use the TomTom map, use max 50 shaping points. Then send it to the connected app, choose the track and route with 50 points.
Then in the route file tick on the 3 dots in the upper right corner and choose convert to route with points. The 50 points will be visible.
Choose that route on the CRN and you can also make the track visible on the CRN

Superbedankt Hans. Op die manier worden er inderdaad punten zichtbaar. Ik heb niet het idee overigens dat dit de punten zijn die ik in MRA heb aangemaakt. Dus een lunchstop of koffiestop heeft mogelijk geen punt in de CRN.

Heb je misschien daar weer een oplossing voor?

[Dikke Wim]

@Philip-Goh

This is also what I see when exporting from MRA to the Connect Ride app on my iPhone WHEN I EXPORT the route as a GPX1.2 file. When exporting as a GPX1.1 file, the number of point in the route are always below 50.

Like the Track, also the route with the many points (sometimes >3000) can be used by the CRN!

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Dikke-Wim

Klopt TT kent geen via punten of harde punten. De route splitsen bij de koffie, lunchstop is een optie

[paul69]

@Philip-Goh

i have just exported a simple route from MRA to my connected app, if you notice the two are very different, one has 2517 support points and the other only 22. obviously the lower number is the route with the waypoints.

perhaps you should try to import again and see if you get the same result

i cannot explain why you would have so many way/support points in a route.

[paul69]

@Philip-Goh

i have downloaded the same route as the one you used, i do not seem to be having the issue that you have

as you can see i have something similar to you except my route only shows 32 support points.

i have added a capital A to the name just for reference.

this was in the mRA app on my iPhone.
the route saved in my routes on the website,

MRA app>click route> click download as 1.1gpx>then click export>click connected app>this gives the above page>select route to import.

[Philip Goh]

@Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!

GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.

[Dikke Wim]

@Philip-Goh said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

@Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!

GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.

Exctually, I'm not sure yet that GPX1.1 is the best option. If I look at the ROUTE in the pictures above, I see differences between the route and the Track.

A good check is to:

• make the track visible (e.g. in the color black instead of the default white color)
• then start the route with the fewer waypoints (<50)
• compare the route with the tack on the map.
• differences are easily seen when the blue line (route) deviates from the black line (track).

I'm curious about the result.
Please let me know the outcome!

[Philip Goh]

@Dikke-Wim you have to do what Hans suggested above, which is to take the route, convert it to a set of waypoints and then the route looks very similar to the track. Much better than what was in the screenshot.

[Dikke Wim]

@Philip-Goh

Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.

Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!

So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.

[paul69]

@Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.
Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!
So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.

and that is exactly the information given in the link i posted at the beginning of this thread.

[Dikke Wim]

@paul69

Sometimes I'm hard learning...

[paul69]

@Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

Sometimes I'm hard learning...

hi
did you look at the thread I inserted. although it's a different forum.
I have actually copied into pdf doc and have easy access to it, for when i forget how to do it.

[Dikke Wim]

@paul69

Could you upload the pdf file here?
That would be nice.

[Dikke Wim]

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA

Hans, I'm curious. Why would you use the route with the waypoints visible? There is no difference between VIA-points and FORM-points. For me it would make sense if you could maken only the VIA-point visible (lunch stops, coffee breaks, castles, etc.). When do you use these waypoints that are visible in the CRN as balloons?

Maybe I miss it but wat is the advantage of seeing all waypoints? The route without the waypoints is the same.

The only thing I can think of is that you can REMEMBER that e.g. waypoint 20 is a coffee break.

A workaround is to add favourites by hand (one by one) in the CRN. These points are visible as a balloon with an asterisk.

Hope te hear from you!

[paul69]

@Dikke-Wim

hi,

not sure it's possible to upload files

[Dikke Wim]

@paul69

I don't see an option either. No problem. I think I have enough information already.

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Dikke-Wim
The CRN sees all points as injured points, if you change the name of the points, you will see the name in the CRN at a point, for example Coffee or lunch.
You will not receive a notification from the CRN, but you can see them. Or indeed remember the number where you want to stop.

[paul69]

@Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

I don't see an option either. No problem. I think I have enough information already.

hi @Dikke-Wim

when i found the thread regarding this process (at the beginning of this thread), i just copied the whole explanation into a word doc, then formatted it to make it more readable and then exported to pdf. i am no computer wizard.

incidentally @Topcat502 who started this topic, i hope all these replies have helped you with your query.

[Topcat502]

Hi all. Really appreciate the help from all, but what an absolute faff!! It looks like MRA and CRN doesn't play well together and hopefully MRA will rectify this in the future. Other GPX files we have downloaded from other bike sites have worked fine. We ride to planned routes so need the waypoints/shaping points, always have. Sadly, regretting buying MRA/CRN at present. Fingers crossed on future updates.

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Topcat502

So what doesn't work? Can you share some screenshots of what you see in the CRN of other gpx files and not of an MRA file.