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  • undefined Philip Goh
    3 Jun 2024, 05:44

    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA How do I control the number of shaping points? For example if I pick a public route like this (https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/motor-and-car-routes/nl/Noord-Holland/295532/21-Bollenstreekroute), this shows up as 2851 support points in the Connected App and Navigator. There's only 32 actual waypoints in the route.

    I'm just so confused by this BMW Connected App/Navigator. I only want the waypoints to show up and I don't really care about the exact route, as long as it's an approximation.

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    paul69
    wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 08:50 last edited by
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    @Philip-Goh

    that to me looks like you have imported the track and not the route/waypoints.
    i doubt anyone would plan a route with 2800 waypoints, that would be excessive in my view

    somebody may correct me on this fact.

    did you read the post i inserted above.

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      3 Jun 2024, 08:50

      @Philip-Goh

      that to me looks like you have imported the track and not the route/waypoints.
      i doubt anyone would plan a route with 2800 waypoints, that would be excessive in my view

      somebody may correct me on this fact.

      did you read the post i inserted above.

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      Philip Goh
      wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 10:32 last edited by
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      @paul69 I imported the route. However there is little difference in the route vs track when it comes to support points. Importing the waypoints alone gives me just a straight line between the start and the end.

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      • undefined Philip Goh
        3 Jun 2024, 10:32

        @paul69 I imported the route. However there is little difference in the route vs track when it comes to support points. Importing the waypoints alone gives me just a straight line between the start and the end.

        17614ec1-3f57-4dad-8be7-7af69a0d52fb-image.png

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        RouteXpert
        wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 13:36 last edited by
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        @Philip-Goh
        The 2 points are the via points in the route, don’t use this route

        The other 2 you can use, the one with more then 1000 start porting points is the track
        The other one is the route

        Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
        Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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        • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
          3 Jun 2024, 13:36

          @Philip-Goh
          The 2 points are the via points in the route, don’t use this route

          The other 2 you can use, the one with more then 1000 start porting points is the track
          The other one is the route

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          Philip Goh
          wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 15:09 last edited by
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          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA So the one that is the "route" with the 2851 support points i the one I want while the "track" with 2849 support points is the one I want to avoid?

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          • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
            21 May 2024, 17:28

            @Topcat502

            Use the TomTom map, use max 50 shaping points. Then send it to the connected app, choose the track and route with 50 points.
            Then in the route file tick on the 3 dots in the upper right corner and choose convert to route with points. The 50 points will be visible.
            Choose that route on the CRN and you can also make the track visible on the CRN

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            wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 15:35 last edited by
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            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

            @Topcat502

            Use the TomTom map, use max 50 shaping points. Then send it to the connected app, choose the track and route with 50 points.
            Then in the route file tick on the 3 dots in the upper right corner and choose convert to route with points. The 50 points will be visible.
            Choose that route on the CRN and you can also make the track visible on the CRN

            Superbedankt Hans. Op die manier worden er inderdaad punten zichtbaar. Ik heb niet het idee overigens dat dit de punten zijn die ik in MRA heb aangemaakt. Dus een lunchstop of koffiestop heeft mogelijk geen punt in de CRN.

            Heb je misschien daar weer een oplossing voor?

            BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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            • undefined Philip Goh
              3 Jun 2024, 10:32

              @paul69 I imported the route. However there is little difference in the route vs track when it comes to support points. Importing the waypoints alone gives me just a straight line between the start and the end.

              17614ec1-3f57-4dad-8be7-7af69a0d52fb-image.png

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              wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 15:41 last edited by
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              @Philip-Goh

              This is also what I see when exporting from MRA to the Connect Ride app on my iPhone WHEN I EXPORT the route as a GPX1.2 file. When exporting as a GPX1.1 file, the number of point in the route are always below 50.

              Like the Track, also the route with the many points (sometimes >3000) can be used by the CRN!

              BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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              • undefined Dikke Wim
                3 Jun 2024, 15:35

                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

                @Topcat502

                Use the TomTom map, use max 50 shaping points. Then send it to the connected app, choose the track and route with 50 points.
                Then in the route file tick on the 3 dots in the upper right corner and choose convert to route with points. The 50 points will be visible.
                Choose that route on the CRN and you can also make the track visible on the CRN

                Superbedankt Hans. Op die manier worden er inderdaad punten zichtbaar. Ik heb niet het idee overigens dat dit de punten zijn die ik in MRA heb aangemaakt. Dus een lunchstop of koffiestop heeft mogelijk geen punt in de CRN.

                Heb je misschien daar weer een oplossing voor?

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                RouteXpert
                wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 17:43 last edited by
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                @Dikke-Wim

                Klopt TT kent geen via punten of harde punten. De route splitsen bij de koffie, lunchstop is een optie

                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                • undefined Philip Goh
                  3 Jun 2024, 10:32

                  @paul69 I imported the route. However there is little difference in the route vs track when it comes to support points. Importing the waypoints alone gives me just a straight line between the start and the end.

                  17614ec1-3f57-4dad-8be7-7af69a0d52fb-image.png

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                  paul69
                  wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 20:38 last edited by
                  #12

                  @Philip-Goh

                  i have just exported a simple route from MRA to my connected app, if you notice the two are very different, one has 2517 support points and the other only 22. obviously the lower number is the route with the waypoints.

                  perhaps you should try to import again and see if you get the same result

                  Screenshot 2024-06-03 at 21.32.31.jpeg.png

                  i cannot explain why you would have so many way/support points in a route.

                  to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                  K1600 GTL
                  Oukitel RT3
                  iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                  • undefined Philip Goh
                    3 Jun 2024, 10:32

                    @paul69 I imported the route. However there is little difference in the route vs track when it comes to support points. Importing the waypoints alone gives me just a straight line between the start and the end.

                    17614ec1-3f57-4dad-8be7-7af69a0d52fb-image.png

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                    paul69
                    wrote on 3 Jun 2024, 20:53 last edited by
                    #13

                    @Philip-Goh

                    i have downloaded the same route as the one you used, i do not seem to be having the issue that you have

                    Screenshot 2024-06-03 at 21.45.28.jpeg.png

                    as you can see i have something similar to you except my route only shows 32 support points.

                    i have added a capital A to the name just for reference.

                    this was in the mRA app on my iPhone.
                    the route saved in my routes on the website,

                    MRA app>click route> click download as 1.1gpx>then click export>click connected app>this gives the above page>select route to import.

                    to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                    K1600 GTL
                    Oukitel RT3
                    iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                    • undefined Dikke Wim
                      3 Jun 2024, 15:41

                      @Philip-Goh

                      This is also what I see when exporting from MRA to the Connect Ride app on my iPhone WHEN I EXPORT the route as a GPX1.2 file. When exporting as a GPX1.1 file, the number of point in the route are always below 50.

                      Like the Track, also the route with the many points (sometimes >3000) can be used by the CRN!

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                      Philip Goh
                      wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 04:48 last edited by
                      #14

                      @Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!

                      GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.

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                      • undefined Philip Goh
                        4 Jun 2024, 04:48

                        @Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!

                        GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.

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                        wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 12:16 last edited by
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                        @Philip-Goh said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

                        @Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!

                        GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.

                        Exctually, I'm not sure yet that GPX1.1 is the best option. If I look at the ROUTE in the pictures above, I see differences between the route and the Track.

                        A good check is to:

                        • make the track visible (e.g. in the color black instead of the default white color)
                        • then start the route with the fewer waypoints (<50)
                        • compare the route with the tack on the map.
                        • differences are easily seen when the blue line (route) deviates from the black line (track).

                        I'm curious about the result.
                        Please let me know the outcome!

                        BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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                        • undefined Dikke Wim
                          4 Jun 2024, 12:16

                          @Philip-Goh said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

                          @Dikke-Wim This was it!! I was always using GPX 1.2 and that seems to generate files that are 2x the size of the GPX 1.1 files. When I switch to using GPX 1.1, then it works as expected!

                          GPX 1.1 is the way to go for BMW’s connected ride app and navigator.

                          Exctually, I'm not sure yet that GPX1.1 is the best option. If I look at the ROUTE in the pictures above, I see differences between the route and the Track.

                          A good check is to:

                          • make the track visible (e.g. in the color black instead of the default white color)
                          • then start the route with the fewer waypoints (<50)
                          • compare the route with the tack on the map.
                          • differences are easily seen when the blue line (route) deviates from the black line (track).

                          I'm curious about the result.
                          Please let me know the outcome!

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                          Philip Goh
                          wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 16:21 last edited by
                          #16

                          @Dikke-Wim you have to do what Hans suggested above, which is to take the route, convert it to a set of waypoints and then the route looks very similar to the track. Much better than what was in the screenshot.

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                          • undefined Philip Goh
                            4 Jun 2024, 16:21

                            @Dikke-Wim you have to do what Hans suggested above, which is to take the route, convert it to a set of waypoints and then the route looks very similar to the track. Much better than what was in the screenshot.

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                            wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 19:19 last edited by Dikke Wim 6 Apr 2024, 19:20
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                            @Philip-Goh

                            Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.

                            Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!

                            So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.

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                            • undefined Dikke Wim
                              4 Jun 2024, 19:19

                              @Philip-Goh

                              Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.

                              Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!

                              So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.

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                              paul69
                              wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 06:46 last edited by
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                              @Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

                              Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.
                              Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!
                              So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.

                              and that is exactly the information given in the link i posted at the beginning of this thread.

                              to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                              K1600 GTL
                              Oukitel RT3
                              iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                                5 Jun 2024, 06:46

                                @Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

                                Thanks for adding this information. Very useful.
                                Indeed, the route becomes much better and similar to the track after calculating the routepoints in de Connect Ride App on the smartphone. Once inside the Connect Ride Next it looks good!
                                So the small image of the route in de App is misleading.

                                and that is exactly the information given in the link i posted at the beginning of this thread.

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                                wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 13:25 last edited by
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                                @paul69

                                Sometimes I'm hard learning... 🙂

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                                  5 Jun 2024, 13:25

                                  @paul69

                                  Sometimes I'm hard learning... 🙂

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                                  wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 13:59 last edited by
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                                  @Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

                                  Sometimes I'm hard learning...

                                  hi
                                  did you look at the thread I inserted. although it's a different forum.
                                  I have actually copied into pdf doc and have easy access to it, for when i forget how to do it.

                                  to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                                  K1600 GTL
                                  Oukitel RT3
                                  iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                                    5 Jun 2024, 13:59

                                    @Dikke-Wim said in BMW Connected Ride Navigator not importing waypoints:

                                    Sometimes I'm hard learning...

                                    hi
                                    did you look at the thread I inserted. although it's a different forum.
                                    I have actually copied into pdf doc and have easy access to it, for when i forget how to do it.

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                                    wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 18:49 last edited by
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                                    @paul69

                                    Could you upload the pdf file here?
                                    That would be nice.

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                                    • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                                      21 May 2024, 17:28

                                      @Topcat502

                                      Use the TomTom map, use max 50 shaping points. Then send it to the connected app, choose the track and route with 50 points.
                                      Then in the route file tick on the 3 dots in the upper right corner and choose convert to route with points. The 50 points will be visible.
                                      Choose that route on the CRN and you can also make the track visible on the CRN

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                                      wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 18:56 last edited by
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                                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA

                                      Hans, I'm curious. Why would you use the route with the waypoints visible? There is no difference between VIA-points and FORM-points. For me it would make sense if you could maken only the VIA-point visible (lunch stops, coffee breaks, castles, etc.). When do you use these waypoints that are visible in the CRN as balloons?

                                      Maybe I miss it but wat is the advantage of seeing all waypoints? The route without the waypoints is the same.

                                      The only thing I can think of is that you can REMEMBER that e.g. waypoint 20 is a coffee break.

                                      A workaround is to add favourites by hand (one by one) in the CRN. These points are visible as a balloon with an asterisk.

                                      Hope te hear from you!

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                                        5 Jun 2024, 18:49

                                        @paul69

                                        Could you upload the pdf file here?
                                        That would be nice.

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                                        wrote on 6 Jun 2024, 06:42 last edited by
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                                        @Dikke-Wim

                                        hi,

                                        not sure it's possible to upload files

                                        to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                                        K1600 GTL
                                        Oukitel RT3
                                        iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                                          6 Jun 2024, 06:42

                                          @Dikke-Wim

                                          hi,

                                          not sure it's possible to upload files

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                                          wrote on 6 Jun 2024, 08:52 last edited by
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                                          @paul69

                                          I don't see an option either. No problem. I think I have enough information already.

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