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  • undefined Corjan Meijerink
    19 Feb 2024, 19:29

    @Jack-van-Tilburg cool! Thanks for the elaborate feedback. So summary: given the limitations of CarPlay the experience was good! The fact that everything functions without issues means that the work done is successful! 🙂

    Now that everything is stable, we can start focussing on improving the experience (within the constraints) and adding features.

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    wrote on 19 Feb 2024, 19:41 last edited by Jack van Tilburg
    #66

    @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.1.0) Android Auto / CarPlay revamp:

    given the limitations of CarPlay the experience was good!

    The stability was indeed okay in this short route. I don't like operating the available functions.

    Now that everything is stable, we can start focussing on improving the experience (within the constraints) and adding features.

    To improve the experience, I would prefer to address the aforementioned uncomfortable operation of the functions first before adding new features.

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      19 Feb 2024, 19:41

      @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.1.0) Android Auto / CarPlay revamp:

      given the limitations of CarPlay the experience was good!

      The stability was indeed okay in this short route. I don't like operating the available functions.

      Now that everything is stable, we can start focussing on improving the experience (within the constraints) and adding features.

      To improve the experience, I would prefer to address the aforementioned uncomfortable operation of the functions first before adding new features.

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      Jörgen
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      wrote on 19 Feb 2024, 19:48 last edited by
      #67

      @Jack-van-Tilburg after reading your findings, I tested the latest version with my Elebest as well. I can not see the same issues.
      When I press skip WP I see shortly a message "calculation".

      IMG_5330.PNG

      And when I press move map, I see the zoom +/- buttons.

      IMG_5332.PNG

      What Elebest device do you have?

      Hardware
      iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
      Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
      Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
      Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
      Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
      For more information, click here

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      • undefined Jörgen
        19 Feb 2024, 19:48

        @Jack-van-Tilburg after reading your findings, I tested the latest version with my Elebest as well. I can not see the same issues.
        When I press skip WP I see shortly a message "calculation".

        IMG_5330.PNG

        And when I press move map, I see the zoom +/- buttons.

        IMG_5332.PNG

        What Elebest device do you have?

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        GT JWR
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        wrote on 19 Feb 2024, 20:27 last edited by
        #68

        @Jörgen seems I'm missing something...where is the skip waypoint button located on the CarPlay screen?

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        • undefined GT JWR
          19 Feb 2024, 20:27

          @Jörgen seems I'm missing something...where is the skip waypoint button located on the CarPlay screen?

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          Jörgen
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          wrote on 19 Feb 2024, 20:31 last edited by
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          @GT-JWR

          IMG_5326.PNG

          Hardware
          iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
          Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
          Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
          Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
          Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
          For more information, click here

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          • undefined Jörgen
            19 Feb 2024, 19:48

            @Jack-van-Tilburg after reading your findings, I tested the latest version with my Elebest as well. I can not see the same issues.
            When I press skip WP I see shortly a message "calculation".

            IMG_5330.PNG

            And when I press move map, I see the zoom +/- buttons.

            IMG_5332.PNG

            What Elebest device do you have?

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            Jack van Tilburg
            wrote on 19 Feb 2024, 20:37 last edited by
            #70

            @Jörgen said in New Beta! (v4.1.0) Android Auto / CarPlay revamp:

            What Elebest device do you have?

            Elebest Motorrad-Navi 7 Zoll CarPlay C750

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            • undefined Jörgen
              19 Feb 2024, 20:31

              @GT-JWR

              IMG_5326.PNG

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              GT JWR
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              wrote on 19 Feb 2024, 20:38 last edited by
              #71

              @Jörgen ah, ok, thanks. It just wasn't showing on your snipit above....I recall seeing it before.

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              • undefined Jörgen
                19 Feb 2024, 19:48

                @Jack-van-Tilburg after reading your findings, I tested the latest version with my Elebest as well. I can not see the same issues.
                When I press skip WP I see shortly a message "calculation".

                IMG_5330.PNG

                And when I press move map, I see the zoom +/- buttons.

                IMG_5332.PNG

                What Elebest device do you have?

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                Jack van Tilburg
                wrote on 19 Feb 2024, 21:40 last edited by Jack van Tilburg
                #72

                @Jörgen said in New Beta! (v4.1.0) Android Auto / CarPlay revamp:

                IMG_5330.PNG

                I am now sitting on my chair trying to remove it again and I indeed see this image. But so terribly short that I'm amazed as to how you can take a screenshot of it.
                But I really don't remember seeing this this afternoon.
                It is also a different image than when you perform this action in the app.

                IMG_1966.jpg

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                • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                  19 Feb 2024, 18:28

                  @Lynchy67 266 should be available now for Android, that is the latest. Upgrade should go as expected without issues 🙂

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                  Lynchy67
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                  wrote on 20 Feb 2024, 06:35 last edited by
                  #73

                  @Corjan-Meijerink

                  All good now thank you.

                  You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                  • undefined richtea999
                    19 Feb 2024, 18:18

                    @Lynchy67 said in New Beta! (v4.1.0) Android Auto / CarPlay revamp:

                    Seems I'm late to the update party.
                    I seeing 4.1.0 - 263, is that the latest for Android?

                    I have no routes in my downloads but I have hundreds of routes in the planner.

                    Do I have to manually put all my routes back into the downloads folder???

                    Was there an issue with this update???

                    Keep up lad / lass! 😀

                    There was initially an issue with 4.0.8 -> 4.1.0 - a white screen.

                    The (very temporary) solution to seeing the white screen was to uninstall and reinstall. That's what the extra releases were trying to resolve.

                    If you didn't see a white screen and didn't uninstall/reinstall then you're OK. All setting and maps will be preserved.

                    Any uninstall/reinstall means re-setting up the app and any re-downloading lost maps/offline routes.

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                    Lynchy67
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                    wrote on 20 Feb 2024, 06:37 last edited by
                    #74

                    @richtea999

                    Lad not Lass.

                    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                    • undefined Lynchy67
                      19 Feb 2024, 16:28

                      @Corjan-Meijerink

                      Seems I'm late to the update party.
                      I seeing 4.1.0 - 263, is that the latest for Android?

                      I have no routes in my downloads but I have hundreds of routes in the planner.

                      Do I have to manually put all my routes back into the downloads folder???

                      Was there an issue with this update???

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                      Con Hennekens
                      Alpha tester
                      wrote on 20 Feb 2024, 09:51 last edited by Con Hennekens
                      #75

                      @Lynchy67 said in New Beta! (v4.1.0) Android Auto / CarPlay revamp:

                      Do I have to manually put all my routes back into the downloads folder???

                      I do not assume you always need all 100's of routes to be available offline all the time? There is an option in the settings that enables all started routes to be downloaded for offline use automatically. I have a habit of starting al routes in the app once, before I leave home, just to check them on the device itself. This way, I do not need to think about downloading them manually.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • undefined Con Hennekens
                        20 Feb 2024, 09:51

                        @Lynchy67 said in New Beta! (v4.1.0) Android Auto / CarPlay revamp:

                        Do I have to manually put all my routes back into the downloads folder???

                        I do not assume you always need all 100's of routes to be available offline all the time? There is an option in the settings that enables all started routes to be downloaded for offline use automatically. I have a habit of starting al routes in the app once, before I leave home, just to check them on the device itself. This way, I do not need to think about downloading them manually.

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                        Dave J 0
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                        wrote on 20 Feb 2024, 12:03 last edited by Dave J 0
                        #76

                        @Con-Hennekens That is how I work. Love the feature to do this. Makes life really easy.

                        All stable so far with the latest Android and iOS versions - 4.1.0 - 266.

                        Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                        Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                        iPhone 15 Pro
                        CHIGEE AIO-6 LTE
                        CHIGEE AIO-5 Play
                        Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                        Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                        • undefined Con Hennekens
                          20 Feb 2024, 09:51

                          @Lynchy67 said in New Beta! (v4.1.0) Android Auto / CarPlay revamp:

                          Do I have to manually put all my routes back into the downloads folder???

                          I do not assume you always need all 100's of routes to be available offline all the time? There is an option in the settings that enables all started routes to be downloaded for offline use automatically. I have a habit of starting al routes in the app once, before I leave home, just to check them on the device itself. This way, I do not need to think about downloading them manually.

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                          Lynchy67
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                          wrote on 20 Feb 2024, 17:23 last edited by
                          #77

                          @Con-Hennekens

                          Yes, maybe you are correct in your thinking.
                          I do have a list of favourite routes in the downloads that I use often, but maybe it would be prudent to limit the list somewhat.

                          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                          • undefined Lynchy67
                            20 Feb 2024, 17:23

                            @Con-Hennekens

                            Yes, maybe you are correct in your thinking.
                            I do have a list of favourite routes in the downloads that I use often, but maybe it would be prudent to limit the list somewhat.

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                            Con Hennekens
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on 20 Feb 2024, 17:57 last edited by
                            #78

                            @Lynchy67, do you not have any internet connection at the moment you start such a route? Picking a route the usual way (routes menu) works just fine, as long as you have a live connection, even though the app is in offline mode. As soon as you start a route it will be offline, and no bandwidth is being used.

                            Together with the option "download routes for offline use automatically", I seldomly need to download anything manually.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • undefined Con Hennekens
                              20 Feb 2024, 17:57

                              @Lynchy67, do you not have any internet connection at the moment you start such a route? Picking a route the usual way (routes menu) works just fine, as long as you have a live connection, even though the app is in offline mode. As soon as you start a route it will be offline, and no bandwidth is being used.

                              Together with the option "download routes for offline use automatically", I seldomly need to download anything manually.

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                              Lynchy67
                              Valued contributor
                              wrote on 20 Feb 2024, 18:07 last edited by Lynchy67
                              #79

                              @Con-Hennekens

                              The issue with the downloads was due to one of the earlier updates that basically wiped out my downloaded routes in the Downloads folder.
                              I did have to manually put them all back.

                              I went out for a ride today and MRA worked wonderfully. 👍

                              You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                              • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                19 Feb 2024, 12:55

                                @Stephen-Rowland please let me know if 266 works! Should be there for you now 🙂

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                                Stephen Rowland
                                wrote on 21 Feb 2024, 09:30 last edited by
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                                @Corjan-Meijerink Works very well now thanks

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                                  M. Schrijver
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                                  wrote on 22 Feb 2024, 18:29 last edited by
                                  #81

                                  Maybe it was a fix in a previous version but i noticed something else.

                                  Because i deleted everything before i updated to the new version. I needed to download the offline maps again.
                                  This time downloading the maps went pretty quick.

                                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                  • undefined M. Schrijver
                                    22 Feb 2024, 18:29

                                    Maybe it was a fix in a previous version but i noticed something else.

                                    Because i deleted everything before i updated to the new version. I needed to download the offline maps again.
                                    This time downloading the maps went pretty quick.

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                                    RetiredWingMan
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                                    wrote on 22 Feb 2024, 23:26 last edited by
                                    #82

                                    @M-Schrijver it seems that downloading maps is very dependant in Internet traffic and how busy the Here servers are. Sometimes it goes very quickly and other times it feels like we're back in dialup days.😊

                                    2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                                      wrote on 24 Feb 2024, 12:23 last edited by
                                      #83

                                      Offcourse you're right. But in the past there were many complaints about the slow download speeds of the offline maps. This was something i noticed too. But this time is was completly different.
                                      I have also TomTom GO. This uses offline map too. But in case of TomRom GO the downloadspeed is always reliable.

                                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                      • undefined M. Schrijver
                                        24 Feb 2024, 12:23

                                        Offcourse you're right. But in the past there were many complaints about the slow download speeds of the offline maps. This was something i noticed too. But this time is was completly different.
                                        I have also TomTom GO. This uses offline map too. But in case of TomRom GO the downloadspeed is always reliable.

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                                        wrote on 26 Feb 2024, 08:43 last edited by
                                        #84

                                        @M-Schrijver, When you download maps, the app checks the data it already has. This way an interrupted download does not need to redownload the whole thing again. I guess the data was still present, but the app lost its reference to it. The very quick "download" (probably faster than even possible over wifi?) indicates it merely reindexed the existing maps.

                                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                          wrote on 26 Feb 2024, 17:42 last edited by
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                                          I did clear all data before deleting the app. Maybe you're right.
                                          In the past even updating the maps did not go this fast.

                                          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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